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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    DDD is young fringe contender, Wilder is top 10 guy, probably still top 5. DDD shouldn`t make that step yet, Wilder finishes him.

    Wilder fought bums only at that age.

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  • PunchyPotorff
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    Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
    I would imagine if Dubois is smart... he's concentrating on only Joyce right now. Because Joyce is a tricky and talented fighter. He is a bit slow, but Dubois is certainly no speed king. I would say in a year Wilder may take on either of those two as his comeback fight after Fury embarrasses him again. Just a guess.

    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
    How do you feel about Nathan Gorman? Because he was just about to make his comeback before the CV outbreak. Could he beat Wilder for example?
    Tough to judge when he'd fought no one of much note, then lost in his only step-up fight. Don't think he won a round in that one save possibly the first. He does seem to have good fundamentals, although needs to work on the speed a bit, and the defense obviously. Don't think he's ready for Wilder yet... but is young so it may come eventually.

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  • Oshio
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    This has to stop. DDD is a cobbler that fights other Cobblers. Well, I don't blame him. They see Wilder as a cobbler too post-Fury

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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
    Wilders best win is a luck saved by the bell over the hill guy because Ortiz best was in 2015 ,so good luck selling a big athletic guy with a monster jab doesn’t stand a chance vs Wilder ? But on this planet a big capable boxer always is a threat to him .

    Nathan Gorman is top prospect ,you can get away with these semantics with him but DDD ? You’re going to have be better at convincing those who can see .
    uh? Ortiz is ranked no. 6. DDD hasn't even fought a guy in the top-20. I get Wilder has a dodgy record but it's 4 times as good as DDD's right now!

    You'll change your mind when DDD struggles to get past Joyce. And when you see that Fury finds it much harder to beat a non-fatigued Wilder.

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  • REDEEMER
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    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
    You're a smart guy - almost every guy who has had 15 fights is undefeated. Dubois also has the disadvantage of being a frank Warren guy - so he hasn't been tested. Also trust me - this makes him look twice as good as he actually is.

    Dubois fighting Wilder would be the dumbest move he ever makes. This is just another Anthony Yarde against Kovalaev. Least he will finally learn something if he loses - that he needs a new promoter who can step him up in the right way.
    Wilders best win is a luck saved by the bell over the hill guy because Ortiz best was in 2015 ,so good luck selling a big athletic guy with a monster jab doesn’t stand a chance vs Wilder ? But on this planet a big capable boxer always is a threat to him .

    Nathan Gorman is top prospect ,you can get away with these semantics with him but DDD ? You’re going to have be better at convincing those who can see .

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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
    I would imagine if Dubois is smart... he's concentrating on only Joyce right now. Because Joyce is a tricky and talented fighter. He is a bit slow, but Dubois is certainly no speed king. I would say in a year Wilder may take on either of those two as his comeback fight after Fury embarrasses him again. Just a guess.
    How do you feel about Nathan Gorman? Because he was just about to make his comeback before the CV outbreak. Could he beat Wilder for example?

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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
    How can you slate any fighter who has under 15 fights ? Wilder was saved by the bell in his 13th fight and has improved very little to what most champs do, DDD is an explosive big unit that Wilder has not fought yet because that’s a true power puncher improving so you can’t really say it’s not competitive to the point he’s still a top Wilder win .otherwise your lying or your not in the know .
    You're a smart guy - almost every guy who has had 15 fights is undefeated. Dubois also has the disadvantage of being a frank Warren guy - so he hasn't been tested. Also trust me - this makes him look twice as good as he actually is.

    Dubois fighting Wilder would be the dumbest move he ever makes. This is just another Anthony Yarde against Kovalaev. Least he will finally learn something if he loses - that he needs a new promoter who can step him up in the right way.

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  • Jack Rivers
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    All this is, is click bait for attention and views just like Joshua claiming he wanted to fight wilder.

    Can Dubois win? Sure, anyone has a chance in a fight that's in the ring. It's unlikely. They act like wilder is garbage just because he lost to a guy who is considered the best right now in Fury. It's not like he lost to a fill in like Ruiz.

    Regardless if Wilders technique isn't what is considered good. Foreman was a horrible boxer. All foreman did was swing away and had little to no defense. Now he's considered an all time great. Sure he beat Frazier, Norton and other top guys of his era, and that's what wilder needs to do to cement his legacy. It's not the end of the world just because he lost to Fury but he needs to come back and beat guys like Whyte, Joshua, Parker and so forth.

    Dubois would get lit up by Wilder. Wilders had over 40 fights and set's traps for the knockout and dubois is too inexperienced not to fall for the right hand. He's not Fury.

    This self distancing/isolation/lockdown is making people talk abnormally because they are all pinned up. The boredom is real. We got old fighters claiming they want to make a come back even if it is for charity it's still nonsense that would have never happened if it wasn't for covid19.

    Just worry about Joyce and other mid tier fighters before getting smoked.

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  • PunchyPotorff
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    I would imagine if Dubois is smart... he's concentrating on only Joyce right now. Because Joyce is a tricky and talented fighter. He is a bit slow, but Dubois is certainly no speed king. I would say in a year Wilder may take on either of those two as his comeback fight after Fury embarrasses him again. Just a guess.

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  • pollywog
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    This is the bit where I come in and say, put the kid dynamite/juggernaut winner in with, wait for it...

    Lupesoleai Joseph OILSKIIiiiiiiiiN Parrrrrkerrrrr!!!

    A loss to Parker will show where both those guys are at as much as a loss by Parker will show where he's at.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

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