Comments Thread For: Golovkin is Firm on Canelo: He Avoided Trilogy, I'm Fighting Szeremeta!

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  • PoserExposer
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    #201
    Takes you 5 minutes to setup a social media account but a year long to sell Chiclets just to travel outside of Phoenix maricon. I don’t care for excuses Joto, you obviously ain’t shiet. Quit selling wolf tickets midget Yaqui. All this wolfing at the mouth, you gonna run out of prepaid internet maricon! 🤣🤣🤘🤘
    Originally posted by Robi13
    Because I don’t use social media like a bi.tch? Puzzy, just tell me when You’ll attend a boxing event in Vegas b.itch and we can handle it there since your puzzy ass don’t say where you live, or come to Phoenix then lil puzzy

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #202
      Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
      Szeremeta is awfull belive me



      Golovkin is well-aware of that !!

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      • creekrat77
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        #203
        ****** move. The boxing fandom has panned Golovkin as a soon to be has been. He is fading fast and hasn't had a great performance in years. Unless he thinks he is going to become Wlad at middleweight under K2, a 40 year old gate keeper, then I don't see anything on the horizon that should peek his interest over Canelo.

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        • Robi13
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          #204
          Originally posted by PoserExposer
          Takes you 5 minutes to setup a social media account but a year long to sell Chiclets just to travel outside of Phoenix maricon. I don’t care for excuses Joto, you obviously ain’t shiet. Quit selling wolf tickets midget Yaqui. All this wolfing at the mouth, you gonna run out of prepaid internet maricon! 🤣🤣🤘🤘
          yeah whatever bro, I ain’t about all that talk you know where I live I don’t know where you live, come to next big fight in Vegas the rest idgaf about yabish

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #205
            Originally posted by Robi13
            Can’t call it hate when it’s facts, the guy is a very good fighter that was sold as a ko killer but isn’t what was sold... that’s it
            No "boxer" is what they're sold anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. But forgetting that for a minute and going back to talking theoretically, talking about "boxing" in the context of what it is today and simply comparing GGG, through that lens, to the rest of modern "boxing," I wasn't saying that at his peak, he was not as good as he was sold, only that he never proved it, and that his team was all talk. So yes they sold something they either planned to do but never did, or never planned to do in the first place, even in this limited context (in the larger context, IMO obviously they never planned to fight any of those guys in those various divisions, but let's no go there, Im just talking about in the limited context).

            Like, within the limited context, Badou Jack had a draw with Adonis Stevenson at 175. If you imagine how Jack and GGG appear in the ring, even with the size difference, who do you imagine would win based on those appearances, GGG or Jack in one of these imagined pretend boxing matches? I would say GGG. So to say GGG wasn't what he was sold, as someone who could based on ability displayed and shown versus others in the ring, "beat" Adonis Stevenson or Kovalev or Ward at 175, I'm not saying that. It's possible he could have. But the reason I say he's a joke is that he or his team talked about anyone from 154 to 175, but then when they staged no matchups with interesting opponents at 160 because they claimed no one there would agree to it, they failed to stage interesting matchups such as those at 175 instead.

            The appearance of GGG's talent in his prime, I don't think that was a joke. The reason I say he's a joke despite that is because how he and his team failed to prove it, because of the career route that was taken, and the lack of urgency shown to prove the things that were said or hinted at and that his fans wanted to see attempted. But now that I peep the game more than I did back then, I know it doesn't really matter anyway. Not that it ever mattered on a grand scale outside of entertainment and... fair creditation and accomplishment on par with abilities and willingness to engage in real competition, which of course never panned out either on any level except for one level and only at 160 even on that level... but I know it really really really doesn't matter even on that level. So I don't care like I used to before I peeped the game in that way but Im just saying, it's true that his actual career accomplishments have come nowhere near the potential and promise they could have back in 2012 or whenever he beat his first few HBO opponents, but that doesn't mean the displayed talent was not as as good of a display as it appeared to be, it just means it was never "proven" to be even on that level so we can never know either way. And that's a joke and a failure in itself, on that level. On the other level, it doesn't matter.

            Edit: I know Stevenson was somewhat past prime vs Jack already, but Kovalev was too vs Ward and arguably appeared to "beat" him, and we know the GGG sparring story vs Kovalev. If past prime Stevenson vs Jack appears 6-6, maybe prime Stevenson vs Jack appears 10-2, or close fight for a few rounds then apparent "KO." But maybe GGG vs Jack appears a shutout, or shutout and then apparent "KO" by GGG. Point is these guys never appeared to mix, so we can never know how it would have appeared if they did, and since Team GGG gave fans the idea he would engage in such displays and then never did, he is a "joke" on that level as a general term used to explain that in shorthand.
            Last edited by Boxing Logic; 05-21-2020, 01:02 PM.

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            • Robi13
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              #206
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic
              No "boxer" is what they're sold anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. But forgetting that for a minute and going back to talking theoretically, talking about "boxing" in the context of what it is today and simply comparing GGG, through that lens, to the rest of modern "boxing," I wasn't saying that at his peak, he was not as good as he was sold, only that he never proved it, and that his team was all talk. So yes they sold something they either planned to do but never did, or never planned to do in the first place, even in this limited context (in the larger context, IMO obviously they never planned to fight any of those guys in those various divisions, but let's no go there, Im just talking about in the limited context).

              Like, within the limited context, Badou Jack had a draw with Adonis Stevenson at 175. If you imagine how Jack and GGG appear in the ring, even with the size difference, who do you imagine would win based on those appearances, GGG or Jack in one of these imagined pretend boxing matches? I would say GGG. So to say GGG wasn't what he was sold, as someone who could based on ability displayed and shown versus others in the ring, "beat" Adonis Stevenson or Kovalev or Ward at 175, I'm not saying that. It's possible he could have. But the reason I say he's a joke is that he or his team talked about anyone from 154 to 175, but then when they staged no matchups with interesting opponents at 160 because they claimed no one there would agree to it, they failed to stage interesting matchups such as those at 175 instead.

              The appearance of GGG's talent in his prime, I don't think that was a joke. The reason I say he's a joke despite that is because how he and his team failed to prove it, because of the career route that was taken, and the lack of urgency shown to prove the things that were said or hinted at and that his fans wanted to see attempted. But now that I peep the game more than I did back then, I know it doesn't really matter anyway. Not that it ever mattered on a grand scale outside of entertainment and... fair creditation and accomplishment on par with abilities and willingness to engage in real competition, which of course never panned out either on any level except for one level and only at 160 even on that level... but I know it really really really doesn't matter even on that level. So I don't care like I used to before I peeped the game in that way but Im just saying, it's true that his actual career accomplishments have come nowhere near the potential and promise they could have back in 2012 or whenever he beat his first few HBO opponents, but that doesn't mean the displayed talent was not as as good of a display as it appeared to be, it just means it was never "proven" to be even on that level so we can never know either way. And that's a joke and a failure in itself, on that level. On the other level, it doesn't matter.

              Edit: I know Stevenson was somewhat past prime vs Jack already, but Kovalev was too vs Ward and arguably appeared to "beat" him, and we know the GGG sparring story vs Kovalev. If past prime Stevenson vs Jack appears 6-6, maybe prime Stevenson vs Jack appears 10-2, or close fight for a few rounds then apparent "KO." But maybe GGG vs Jack appears a shutout, or shutout and then apparent "KO" by GGG. Point is these guys never appeared to mix, so we can never know how it would have appeared if they did, and since Team GGG gave fans the idea he would engage in such displays and then never did, he is a "joke" on that level as a general term used to explain that in shorthand.
              Yup, I’m no sucker for the “yeah anyone any time, but they scared of me” bs... I get you bro

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              • Lance98
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                #207
                To be honest, ggg should retire if he doesn't plan on fighting top MWs. He is only holding things back and is a liability to dazn.

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                • MEXICAN STYLE
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                  #208
                  Keep lying to yourself Triple B side

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                  • rickJen
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                    #209
                    I have defended this guy, and I'm not even a Cnelo fan.
                    You disappeared for a year without a trace and even a hint of what your plans were.
                    And when you came back you want to dictate when and where to fight you?
                    Cnelo was already living comfortably in the DAZN apartment.
                    You're a new tenant and want to rearrange the furnitures?
                    That's how it looked to me.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #210
                      O’Reilly Gennadiy?!

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