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  • ThunderFists
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    #21
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    Originally posted by ThunderFists

    I'm a huge Inoue fan, but just because he's the best boxer that you know of to come out of Japan doesn't mean he's the best. Not yet at least.

    Check out guys like Jiro Watanabe, Fighting Harada, Yoko Gushiken just to name a few.
    Jiro watanabe HA dont make me laugh guy. Dude fought nobodies and ducked galaxy. Same with gushiken fought a load of avg midgets and ended up getting knocked out by one in the end. What happened to harada when he FINALLY moved up? Couldnt do ****. Inoue already 3 weight world champ has a better resume and has achieved more than all 3 of them and hasnt even approached his prime. Nvm inoue those guys aint even better than ioka. Get real

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #22
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      both are ridiculous, because both are bullshlt

      I know exactly why you felt compelled to mention that bullshlt

      put it this way...

      if you were to remove that bullshlt... your post would have been a LOT shorter, with possibly one less name LMAO

      you cannot help yourself

      #idiotfanboyforlife
      Sure thing, Scrappy. You don't understand shit. My feelings on this matter go well beyond any single fighter. I'm a guy that likes rules and systems (sports and games are meaningless without them) and there's a glaringly ****** contradiction here. Acknowledging that the official record is likely to read a particular way does not in any way indicate my agreement with it. Like I say, start a petition to the WBA and the HoF to insist that the WBA World title should be disregarded for record keeping purposes whilst there's an incumbent Super Champion - and that the Super Champion status be phased out altogether at the earliest opportunity - and I'll be the first to sign that shit. Hell I might even draft one myself then maybe you'd like to sign it?

      Stuff like that is one of things that's brought the sport to the ****** state of confusion it's in for my money and only helps drive away potential fans.

      Personally I say what I've said ever since counting GGGs title defenses became an issue of contention, he should be credited with those defenses made either whilst he was Super champion or when he was the sole WBA Worlds champion and there was no incumbent Super. Makes it 15 by my count. Other people prefer to just count his defenses as Super champion but that creates problems elsewhere cos you then gotta de-recognise a whole load of other regular champs in other divisions effectively stripping guys like Broner and Maidana and Linares if you want to remain consistent.
      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 05-04-2020, 04:44 PM.

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      • Luilun
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        #23
        Manny Pacquaio Canelo Alvarez and Tyson Fury

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #24
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba
          Sure thing, Scrappy. You don't understand shit. My feelings on this matter go well beyond any single fighter. I'm a guy that likes rules and systems (sports and games are meaningless without them) and there's a glaringly ****** contradiction here. Acknowledging that the official record is likely to read a particular way does not in any way indicate my agreement with it. Like I say, start a petition to the WBA and the HoF to insist that the WBA World title should be disregarded for record keeping purposes whilst there's an incumbent Super Champion - and that the Super Champion status be phased out altogether at the earliest opportunity - and I'll be the first to sign that shit. Hell I might even draft one myself then maybe you'd like to sign it?

          Stuff like that is one of things that's brought the sport to the ****** state of confusion it's in for my money and only helps drive away potential fans.

          Personally I say what I've said ever since counting GGGs title defenses became an issue of contention, he should be credited with those defenses made either whilst he was Super champion or when he was the sole WBA Worlds champion and there was no incumbent Super. Makes it 15 by my count. Other people prefer to just count his defenses as Super champion but that creates problems elsewhere cos you then gotta de-recognise a whole load of other regular champs in other divisions effectively stripping guys like Broner and Maidana and Linares if you want to remain consistent.





          I am not interested in your feelings you little clown

          FACT: you run with EVERY little bit of fanboy bullshlt

          ALL OF IT !!!

          the only correct answer was... BOTH are bullshlt

          but you 100% know... if you remove that bullshlt from Canelo's resume, we would hardly notice... but if you remove that bullshlt from Golovkin's resume, there is literally nothing else to write about

          you fooled nobody son

          I am yet to see a post where you keep it real... you are always smoothing edges, painting pictures, sliding in excuses... that is what you do

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #25
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            I am not interested in your feelings you little clown

            FACT: you run with EVERY little bit of fanboy bullshlt

            ALL OF IT !!!

            the only correct answer was... BOTH are bullshlt

            but you 100% know... if you remove that bullshlt from Canelo's resume, we would hardly notice... but if you remove that bullshlt from Golovkin's resume, there is literally nothing else to write about

            you fooled nobody son

            I am yet to see a post where you keep it real... you are always smoothing edges, painting pictures, sliding in excuses... that is what you do
            You ain't interested yet you continually follow me around sniffing my ass? How curious. The world ain't simple, man, what can I tell ya? Only clowns like you see things in black and white or see only one side of a story.

            So... you gonna start that petition are you just gonna cry about the injustice of the world to folk who got better things to do?
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 05-04-2020, 05:03 PM.

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            • Quicksilver*
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              #26
              Originally posted by JohnCastellanos
              Hey Shane you really gave ggg credit for 20 championship defenses but you didn’t credit Canelo for beating Fielding for the regular belt @168? Come on I get Canelos list of accomplishments is too long but that was just a hypocrite move
              Regular title

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #27
                Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                You ain't interested yet you continually follow me around sniffing my ass? How curious. The world ain't simple, man, what can I tell ya? Only clowns like you see things in black and white or see only one side of a story.

                So... you gonna start that petition are you just gonna cry about the injustice of the world to folk who got better things to do?



                tell me again about you feelings... as you blurt out multiple excuses on multiple threads simultaneously... to justify why Hypekin ducked multiple fighters loooool

                is it Mora on this thread? ... or were we doing Lara and Saunders? ... could guys like Ward and Andrade be included with Lara? ... or with Mora? ... they used the exact same excuse to duck Ward, Mora, Lara, maybe they could be addressed together?

                or is it easier for you to simply create another thread so we can discuss the guys we missed?

                so many excuses... so little time/space

                grow up clown, and get some pride... never seen you keep it real once

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                • JohnCastellanos
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Quicksilver*
                  Regular title
                  Yeah that comment is for big dogs but I’ll school you a bit. Golovkin supposedly defended his belt 20 times but the first 10 I believe he held the regular title. So I’m saying that if your gonna credit G with “20” defenses then you must acknowledge Canelo as a 4 division champ not a 3 division

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    tell me again about you feelings... as you blurt out multiple excuses on multiple threads simultaneously... to justify why Hypekin ducked multiple fighters loooool

                    is it Mora on this thread? ... or were we doing Lara and Saunders? ... could guys like Ward and Andrade be included with Lara? ... or with Mora? ... they used the exact same excuse to duck Ward, Mora, Lara, maybe they could be addressed together?

                    or is it easier for you to simply create another thread so we can discuss the guys we missed?

                    so many excuses... so little time/space



                    grow up clown, and get some pride... never seen you keep it real once
                    Explaining why your shit doesn't make sense ain't making excuses Scrappy it's just a public service. You like to talk about ducks and cowards and frauds and hypejobs and I like to talk about boxing. It's what makes me a boxing fan and you a troll.

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                    • Citizen Koba
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JohnCastellanos
                      Yeah that comment is for big dogs but I’ll school you a bit. Golovkin supposedly defended his belt 20 times but the first 10 I believe he held the regular title. So I’m saying that if your gonna credit G with “20” defenses then you must acknowledge Canelo as a 4 division champ not a 3 division
                      That's the long and the short of it. You either credit Golovkin with 15 defenses (whilst he was sole or Super champion) 10 (from when he was elevated to 'Super') status or 20 from when he first won the WBA regular. The official record will say 20 but if you acknowledge that you also have to acknowledge Canelo's World title at 168.

                      As I've said elsewhere I'd argue the case for Golovkin having 15 defenses and Canelo not having the the forth divisional title but it's what you choose TBH.

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