Comments Thread For: Joshua: Tyson Fury Has Surprised Me, But Every Fighter Needs Time To Develop

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  • Marvlus Marv
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    #11
    Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
    AJ never seems to have anything insightful to say
    I'll go even further and say reading his interviews has become painful. AJ tries waaaay too fkn hard to be some kind of wise Guru type figure yet he never says anything you can remember. Still like AJ, good guy and a formidable heavyweight, just wish he'd drop all the Guru shti

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    • Ant1979
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      #12
      Fury for me is without doubt the most improved fighter in boxing, not just the HW division.

      I remember watching some of his early offerings and he was truly woeful. Slow, predictable (same cra*py combo's), ponderous and gassing badly. I also remember him upper cutting himself in the face and wondering what the hell I was watching. Not blessed with any sort of boxing brain, chin or power he looked like sh**.

      He got beat by Price in the amateurs and refused to get in on again in the pro ranks with him insisting on going in a different direction. It wasn't a good look.

      Now look at him?! Massive ring IQ, fast hands, fast feet, completely unpredictable, can switch hit properly, multiple styles, fantastic engine, a chin that can take the very best of backhand's and more than enough power to keep any HW honest.

      Granted he's not everyone's cup of tea but I can't think of any boxer past or present who has made that type of transformation. I mean, he was that bad he nearly knocked himself out, even Johnny Nelson didn't do that hahaha
      Last edited by Ant1979; 05-04-2020, 08:30 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Fury hasn't had as much time to develop. He abused himself for 3 years wasted and haye ruined many years
        All you mentioned are part of development.😉 Boxing is more than throwing punches, it also requires developing yourself mentally. Mental maturity.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          So Joshua does not believe hes STILL not ready to step up? How long does your prime last A.J?
          What do you mean by "he's STILL not ready to step up?" He's already unified champ and has called out the best available at the moment Fury, not to talk about the one trick pony who has been ducking him for years. AJ is the champ if you are not aware.

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            #15
            Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
            AJ never seems to have anything insightful to say
            So you are so insightful with your comment? Just like a fool calling someone else foolish.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Boxviewer
              What do you mean by "he's STILL not ready to step up?" He's already unified champ and has called out the best available at the moment Fury, not to talk about the one trick pony who has been ducking him for years. AJ is the champ if you are not aware.
              Anthony Joshua has never beat a prime #1. or #2. HW champion. Wladimir Klitschko was out of the sport for almost two years, coming off a loss and retired again after his defeat vs. Joshua.

              Deontay Wilder and the Gypsy-Bum were the clear best two in the HW division when they fought. Anthony Joshua had been defeated by a massive underdog, Josh had to demand that Ruiz defend his titles in a 22 foot-ring for the rematch, this was a considerable advantage for Joshua -- who ran like chicken all night.

              A.J is a paper-champ.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Angeljuice
                He's just not one of those arrogant **** who believes he knows it all. He has always said he's learning all the time and has a lot to learn.

                That is a far better attitude than "I'm the best, nobody can beat me" bs you get from talentless Yanks who fold in the first few rounds.

                Boxers like Wilder should be a little more humble and realise they have a lot to learn, but he's not that kind of hillbilly, he believes that he is better than he is and can beat anybody.

                "Nothing you can teach me that I don't already know" is a terrible attitude to take.
                Exactly, some people believe that having big mouth is equal to being the best. The greats are humble to learn from others, even from those are less talented because everyone is somewhere better than you.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Angeljuice
                  He's just not one of those arrogant **** who believes he knows it all. He has always said he's learning all the time and has a lot to learn.

                  That is a far better attitude than "I'm the best, nobody can beat me" bs you get from talentless Yanks who fold in the first few rounds.

                  Boxers like Wilder should be a little more humble and realise they have a lot to learn, but he's not that kind of hillbilly, he believes that he is better than he is and can beat anybody.

                  "Nothing you can teach me that I don't already know" is a terrible attitude to take.
                  People often accuse him of being fake or trying to hard but I just think he speaks the truth and tells it like it is. The ones who brag, act too ****y, trash talk etc are the ones lying and being fake. They're the fake ones imo. They don't even believe the **** they say themselves, they're just trying to portray portray an image, look tough and confident and sell/hype fights. Its kind of ironic.

                  Joshua's right that fighters obviously need time to develope. I've long thought Joshua and Wilder are at a disadvantage having started boxing so late. They've made up for it to an extent due to their talents but it's guys like Floyd who start very young who become the very best in most sports.
                  Last edited by Apollo7; 05-04-2020, 09:01 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
                    I'll go even further and say reading his interviews has become painful. AJ tries waaaay too fkn hard to be some kind of wise Guru type figure yet he never says anything you can remember. Still like AJ, good guy and a formidable heavyweight, just wish he'd drop all the Guru shti
                    Yeah he's got way too 'preachy.' I think the Klitschko win went to his head a little. All this talk of 'legacy' and referring to himself in the third person while playing 'the guru' card is enough to boil anyone's pi**

                    Shame really because when he burst on the scene after the Olympics I thought he was a breath of fresh air. Then Hearn made the Whyte card a PPV event and it all went downhill from there

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 5000boxing
                      Wilder learned a lot from the Fury fight.. But by the third fight.. Fury will be asleep in the ring wondering what in the heck just happened! Off to WWE he goes! AJ's is NECKS! after the smoke settles Wilder will be "the Undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, WHO NECKS!-Samuel peters!"
                      Wilder will be undisputed indeed. Someone who was too afraid to unify anything but has been fighting bums before Fury came up, though he was thinking that he could beat a out of shape Fury. After the trilogy Wilder his usual business of fighting bums or retire.

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