5 fighters who would have beat Floyd Mayweather.

[punchr]

I think Macho Camacho would of beat Mayweather at 130 pounds.

What about Felix Trinidad at 147/154?

[Murcielago]

A poor man's version of Chavez in Castillo beat him, a 135lb or 140lbs Chavez would too.

[therealpugilist]

One vs Barney Ross, another one vs Lou Ambers.

You just put “Henry Armstrong full fights” on youtube and several fights come out. I understand that at the time Armstrong was a beast. But in 2020, from what I saw, i’m far from impressed. Actually while watching the fights, I find some of the posts describing Armstrong amusing. Like have they actually seen these fights and are they seeing what i’m seeing? They must be talking out their asses, trying to impress the boxing community, trying to be liked. There is no way in hell that Armstrong goes the distance today, fighting like that vs many of todays good fighters. I’m sorry if I hurt anyone old school fighter lover’s feelings. But that’s impossible.

Back to the MLB analogy. You bring the pitcher with the best fastball from the 1920-1940s in today, with the same fastball, 86mph. Dude would get absolutely destroyed. He won’t get sent down to the minors, he will be told to go home and take up a trade or something. Athletes of yesterday just don’t stand a chance today. Same with the argument of how good NBA players were when NBA started vs the one’s from today. A ridiculous argument that is argued in all sports. Boxing is no different I see.

its hard to be impressed if you dont understand what you are watching, i boxed a bit growing up, still do studied the sport my entire life and i coach now...all people see is aesthetics, how tall fast or strong someone is


if you have no understanding of the techniques utilized and their effectiveness you wont be impressed or even understand what you are watching


theres no way fighting like that, he would be successful but things he does and utilized were implemented by successful modern fighters like JOe frazier, roberto duran, bennie briscoe, and others

using forearms to block, bobbing weaving and controlling your man on the inside and ropes.


everyone has an opinion,but respectively i dont think you understood much of what you watched.....if he was so easy to hit those guys in front of him would have landed clean shots.


no ones feelings are hurt, your opinion is respected....i just dont think you know much about techniques of boxing. more to boxing than punching and moving laterally

[therealpugilist]

A poor man's version of Chavez in Castillo beat him, a 135lb or 140lbs Chavez would too.

thats not a good analogy at all....castillo is 2 inches taller than Chavez and much larger only thing they have in common is being mexican and labeled inside fighters.....castillo utilized a better jab, and had less headmovement more parries....people been beating this horse a long time

[therealpugilist]

Loma is constantly pressuring guys with his footwork. There’s little to none wasted movement. It’s called feinting, he’s constantly pressurising his opponent mentally. By feinting he’s keeping his opponent guessing and forcing them to react.

You need to go study him man.

It was his second pro fight and he was outweighed massively by experience. What fighter in history beats Salido in their second pro fight?

I don’t know why people use the Salido fight. It’s like using the Torrecampo loss to analyse Pac. Crazy

bro ive seen most of lomas fights live and he has a lot of wasted movement and can be timed, especially coming in, in a str8 line


floyd is not gonna sit waiting like walters or Rigondeaux, floyd at 130 is 2 inches taller like a 5 inch reach advantage and threw combos , add to the fact he is faster of foot and would not be sitting there, move faster than loma


you need to go study floyd at 130 is more like it


loma has nothing to beat floyd, pressure without landing clean shots dont mean much

[Derranged]

Emmanuel Augustus gave him a heck of scare at lightweight with not much time to train and without even knowing who Mayweather was. At 140lbs with a proper training camp, that could have been a different result.

Augustus got pummeled the entire time. If by "scare" you mean took a scary amount of punches, then you're right. .

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Money Mayweather has a real, legit chin but I don't think his chin is good enough to take bombs from Hearns. Hearns by TKO/KO. Mayweather too small, he would have to box perfectly to beat Hearns.

Yeah if Hearns starts landing clean he could definitely KO him or anyone at Welterweight tbf.

I just think Floyd’s defence would allow him to avoid and ride the big shots. I’d pick Hearns by UD.

[Canelo and GGG]

A lot of fighters could beat Floyd and Floyd could beat alot of fighters , if Mayweather was unlucky with judges we wouldnt even have this conversation , it depend on so many details for example , Floyd vs Duran, at lightweight with floyds style at 130 (much more agressive ) Roberto would pummel him ,in 147 i favor more mature Mayweather over Duran , styles,time of a bout ,random events that could occurr in the fight etc it all matter.

[elfag]

Emmanuel Augustus gave him a heck of scare at lightweight with not much time to train and without even knowing who Mayweather was. At 140lbs with a proper training camp, that could have been a different result.

Augustus made him work hard but Mayweather beat the crap out of him. The thing with augustus was he just kept coming, had so much heart and chin. It wasnt like mayweather wasnt landing on him, Augustus just made it a real dog fight.

[elfag]

Augustus got pummeled the entire time. If by "scare" you mean took a scary amount of punches, then you're right. .

I wonder how many people really watched that fight. Everyone parrots some things knowing floyd said it was his hardest and knoing floyd had a rough go but a lot of people's comments (not picking on the dude in this thread) suggest they never really watched it.

Credit due to augustus because he kept coming and took a ton of punishment, it wasnt as one sided as gatti, it was more give and take but agustus was getting spanked in the processes, he did make mayweather miss a lot but this was young mayweather who threw a lot that fight to.

Most similar to the hatton fight in that he really made floyd work hard and push him out of his comfort zone but took an ass whooping in the process.