Comments Thread For: Spence: A 100% Focused, In My Prime, I Would Beat Mayweather!

[JK1700]

And my point wasn’t who was older, my point was Floyd did not fight a “prime” Manny who dominated the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, Oscar, and others.

That’s Mannys fault. He could’ve fought Floyd in 2009 but didn’t want to take the test. Then got KTFO in 2012 by a guy who Floyd won 12/12 rounds against 3+ years earlier. It wasn’t until Pacquiao got knocked out and had tax problems that he and his team decided “oh crap, we better go fight Floyd”.

And your whole “Floyd didn’t fight Manny in his prime” argument is invalid anyway because Floyd was 38 years old and is 2 years older than Manny. Or are we just supposed to act like Floyds prime lasts forever? Lol. Plus Manny should have had Ls against Marquez in 08 and 11 which is his “prime”. So I highly doubt the fight with Floyd would’ve been any different regardless of when it happened from 2009-2015.

[JK1700]

So you can’t name ANYONE Maidana KO’d with a body shot...

No none of those guys were southpaw body punchers like Spence.

Cause Hatton got way out of shape that somehow makes him bigger? Jesus Christ...

You should go join TMT security. That way you can get defensive about Floyd and get paid for it.

You ignored all the facts I posted and posted all this garbage in a desperate attempt to deflect away from the fact I just posted circles around you.

I’m not here for all the spam/trolling so either come at me with an intelligent point or don’t bother replying to my posts.

[Boxing_1013]

Hard to say, I've never seen Floyd against an A level fighter in their prime but then again Spence damn near loss to Shawn Porter. It's a good fight but I'm leaning toward Mayweather. Since the Porter fight, i can't help but think Spence is a bit overrated. He's currently the most proven fighter at 147 but hardly an ATG imo. I think Crawford is a much stronger candidate for that title, he just needs bigger fights at 147 to show it.

Fair point...I expected more of Spence vs Garcia and Porter.

Fair point on Mayweather too on his opposition...don't say that too loud though...people will go into conniptions

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You ignored all the facts I posted and posted all this garbage in a desperate attempt to deflect away from the fact I just posted circles around you.

I’m not here for all the spam/trolling so either come at me with an intelligent point or don’t bother replying to my posts.

It was clearly the other way round.

You made a statement and couldn’t back it up.

So who did Maidana KO with a body shot again?

As I said go join TMT security. You can actually get paid for defending Floyd then.

It’s 1 AM get to bed fella...

[daggum]

You ever think that maybe Floyd counters their jab and thats why they stop using it, he took it off Oscar with counters, Corales got killed the moment he tried to throw anything, he couldnt contend with the sheer speed and accuarcy. lead left hooks on the button, lead right hands on the button, either coming or going on the button.

I honestly dont think you even watch Floyd, all you do it look for any neg you can twist, Floyd was as bad as fck destroying guys more than Manny was for fck sake, take the hate goggles off and watch the moves there is lots you dont even see.

i had floyds entire career set so yes i've watched him. you said corrales was a tall guy with a jab but corrales was a guy that always gave up his jab so i dont understand why you said that. he was a come forward pressure fighter who liked to fight inside, not use his jab. oscar was never a good pressure fighter so im not sure why yo mentioned that either. its liek saying wilder has good footwork or something when you say things like that. those guys were good fighters for sure but you are taking things they are bad at and listing them as positives.

im not hating im just saying what i saw. he has a very deep resume but its not top heavy at all. for example leonard has a top heavy resume but its not deep at all. ali has a top heavy and deep resume. floyd doenst have a top heavy resume but it is deep. i'll take leonard and ali's over floyds any day. he just doesnt have the top quality wins and whne that is the case it just invicted speuclation. some people go the fanboy route and therefore say he cant be beaten and others say we dont really know what would have happened. the guy struggled badly to avoid the left when he fought guys like corley and judah so im not sure spence would be a walk in the park. top guys rarely destroy each other. i dont get why fans do this. ggg didnt destroy jacobs or canelo omg bum.

[Oregonian]

When you take a closer look at Floyd’s resume, and I will preference by saying I like Floyd a lot, who on his resume even compares to what Spence brings to the table 100% focused, in his “prime.” Oscar was towards the end, ditto Cotto, Mosley, & Manny. I think with Manny, everyone will say look what he did to Thurman, but that wasn’t the same Manny that dominated Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, and Mosley and others earlier in his prime. Floyd didn’t get a “prime” Manny.

The only one on Floyd’s resume that resembles Spence when he fought him is a “young” Canelo. But this Spence is more skilled and experienced at Welterweight than a young Canelo at a catch weight, with respect to cutting off the ring, attacking the body consistently, staying busy, throwing scoring punches each round, and mental toughness and focus. I just don’t think Floyd fought anyone in his prime that was skilled and experienced like Spence is. With that being said, I would give Floyd the slight edge, LOL!!!

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I am not going to argue against you because I understand your point.

Just one correction. You said Floyd didn’t fight a prime Mosley and then say that Manny dominated a prime Mosley.

Here’s the thing, Manny fought Mosley right after Mosley had just been dominated by Floyd (just google it). So if Manny beat a prime Mosley who had just lost to Floyd, how is it that Floyd didn’t beat the same prime Mosley??? I’m going to guess you forgot that Floyd fought Mosley first?

Two, and this is important, a prime Mosley was the Mosley that fought Oscar is 2002. At that time Floyd was fighting at 130 so there was just no way Floyd and Mosley would have fought.

Even more important, after Mosley beat Fernando Vargas (twice), Floyd called him out and Mosley said he needed a tune up and needed to fix his tooth (google this).

Lastky, Cotto and Margarito were cheated at the scales by Manny with the catchweight BS. I think Manny would have still beaten them regardless.

And the “prime” Manny that you guys keep talking about was KO’d in his “prime” in 2012 by Marquez. A year before that, Floyd beat up Marquez. We’ve never seen Marquez beat up that way by anyone not named Floyd.

So we can speculate all we want. Manny in his prime or not would have lost to Floyd.

[daggum]

That’s Mannys fault. He could’ve fought Floyd in 2009 but didn’t want to take the test. Then got KTFO in 2012 by a guy who Floyd won 12/12 rounds against 3+ years earlier. It wasn’t until Pacquiao got knocked out and had tax problems that he and his team decided “oh crap, we better go fight Floyd”.

And your whole “Floyd didn’t fight Manny in his prime” argument is invalid anyway because Floyd was 38 years old and is 2 years older than Manny. Or are we just supposed to act like Floyds prime lasts forever? Lol. Plus Manny should have had Ls against Marquez in 08 and 11 which is his “prime”. So I highly doubt the fight with Floyd would’ve been any different regardless of when it happened from 2009-2015.

uh the testing was just a bluff. manny called his bluff and floyd changed the money on him. did you miss that part? did you also miss the part where floyd cheated and usada gave him a tue they never should have for "dehyration" yet he took 10 times more than was needed for severe dehydration. and he dropped only 3 pounds lmao. it was a fake testing system! get it through your head. they let him cheat through tue's. thats why no one uses usada anymore and manny had every right to be hesitant to follow a system floyd thought of and had been rumored to be testing positive already.

and floyd shold have a loss to castillo when floyd was in his prime so how the hell would floyd be able to beat prime pac if he cant beat castillo? did you notice how his level of competition drastically dipped after those fights btw? the next prime guy he fought who was top level in his division was who? there might not be any. 152 drained green canelo is the only one that may come close but you dont think this dip in compeition had anything to do with prolonging his career and looking "dominant"

[ShoulderRoll]

Fair point...I expected more of Spence vs Garcia and Porter.

Fair point on Mayweather too on his opposition...don't say that too loud though...people will go into conniptions

People have conniptions because guys like you will defend Golovkin's opposition then turn around and take shots at Floyd's opposition.

Nobody likes hypocrites with double standards.

[lizard_man]

so hes not focused?

You call being drunk on countless videos and driving while intoxicated at high rates of speed without wearing a seat belt focused?

[markther]

That’s Mannys fault. He could’ve fought Floyd in 2009 but didn’t want to take the test. Then got KTFO in 2012 by a guy who Floyd won 12/12 rounds against 3+ years earlier. It wasn’t until Pacquiao got knocked out and had tax problems that he and his team decided “oh crap, we better go fight Floyd”.

And your whole “Floyd didn’t fight Manny in his prime” argument is invalid anyway because Floyd was 38 years old and is 2 years older than Manny. Or are we just supposed to act like Floyds prime lasts forever? Lol. Plus Manny should have had Ls against Marquez in 08 and 11 which is his “prime”. So I highly doubt the fight with Floyd would’ve been any different regardless of when it happened from 2009-2015.

That wasn’t my “whole argument.” My argument wasn’t about Manny & Floyd. My original post was about Spence and Floyd, and I mentioned Manny on the list of opponents Floyd didn’t face in their prime, LMAO!!!