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  • Thraxox
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    #21
    I cant name 100 all time greats on the top of my head, let alone having a list of top 150.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #22
      Originally posted by asero_831
      This is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time.
      personally i use this criteria:

      accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance,
      longetivity and mainsteam appeal

      I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG...


      1 Sugar Ray Robinson
      2 Muhammad Ali
      3 Harry Greb
      4 Ezzard Charles
      5 Henry Armstrong
      6 Sam Langford
      7 Manny Pacquiao
      8 Roberto Duran
      9 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
      10 Archie Moore
      11 Sugar Ray Leonard
      12 Joe Louis
      13 Willie Pep
      14 Bob Fitzsimmons
      15 Benny Leonard
      16 Gene Tunney
      17 Marvin Hagler
      18 Barney Ross
      19 Roy Jones Jr.
      20 Carlos Monzon
      21 Pernell Whitaker
      22 Bernard Hopkins
      23 Mickey Walker
      24 Joe Gans
      25 Tony Canzoneri
      26 Evander Holyfield
      27 Sandy Saddler
      28 Jimmy Wilde
      29 Eder Jofre
      30 Jimmy McLarnin
      31 Michael Spinks
      32 Tommy Hearns
      33 Rocky Marciano
      34 Tommy Loughran
      35 Alexis Arguello
      36 Stanley Ketchel
      37 Emile Griffith
      38 Jose Napoles
      39 Kid Gavilan
      40 Charley Burley
      41 Jack Dempsey
      42 Joe Walcott
      43 Holman Williams
      44 Oscar De La Hoya
      45 Julio Cesar Chavez
      46 Ike Williams
      47 Billy Conn
      48 Terry McGovern
      49 Bob Foster
      50 Salvador Sanchez
      51 Lennox Lewis
      52 Larry Holmes
      53 Erik Morales
      54 Jake LaMotta
      55 Juan Manuel Marquez
      56 Marco Antonio Barrera
      57 Packey McFarland
      58 Panama Al Brown
      59 Abe Attell
      60 Tommy Ryan
      61 Fighting Harada
      62 Ruben Olivares
      63 Jack Johnson
      64 George Foreman
      65 **** Tiger
      66 Joe Frazier
      67 Carlos Ortiz
      68 Pancho Villa
      69 Felix Trinidad
      70 Mike Gibbons
      71 Joe Calzaghe
      72 Ricardo Lopez
      73 Mike Tyson
      74 Wilfredo Gomez
      75 Carmen Basilio
      76 Jack Britton
      77 Ted Kid Lewis
      78 Tommy Gibbons
      79 Wladimir Klitschko
      80 Andre Ward
      81 Canelo Alvarez
      82 Roman Gonzalez
      83 Shane Mosley
      84 Aaron Pryor
      85 Manuel Ortiz
      86 James Toney
      87 Freddie Welsh
      88 Kid Chocolate
      89 Fidel LaBarba
      90 Vitali Klitschko
      91 Marcel Cerdan
      92 Wilfred Benitez
      93 Tiger Flowers
      94 George Dixon
      95 Nonito Donaire
      96 Vicente Saldivar
      97 Pete Herman
      98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez
      99 Carlos Zarate
      100 Lou Ambers
      101 Gennady Golovkin
      102 Flash Elorde
      103 Pascual Perez
      104 Joe Brown
      105 Johnny Kilbane
      106 Frankie Genaro
      107 Harold Johnson
      108 Maxie Rosenbloom
      109 Sonny Liston
      110 Jimmy Bivins
      111 Benny Lynch
      112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
      113 Miguel Canto
      114 Tony Zale
      115 Freedie Steele
      116 Winky Wright
      117 Miguel Cotto
      118 Beau Jack
      119 Johnny Dundee
      120 Jack Dillon
      121 Kostya Tszyu
      122 Young Corbett III
      123 Freddie Miller
      124 Azumah Nelson
      125 Lloyd Marshall
      126 Baby Arizmendi
      127 Jim Driscoll
      128 Sergio Martinez
      129 Midget Wolgast
      130 Gene Fullmer
      131 Eusebio Pedroza
      132 Khaosai Galaxy
      133 John Henry Lewis
      134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
      135 Timothy Bradley
      136 Nino Benvenuti
      137 Mike McCallum
      138 Antonio Cervantes
      139 Bob Montgomery
      140 Harry Wills
      141 Terence Crawford
      142 Nicolino Locche
      143 Ricky Hatton
      144 Rafael Marquez
      145 Tyson Fury
      146 Duillio Loi
      147 Israel Vasquez
      148 Jung-Koo Chang
      149 Jimmy Barry
      150 Battling Nelson
      IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a look

      Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' -
      Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925
      FOH
      Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names.
      How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ?

      IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO.

      The ''put up yer dukes'' era !!!!
      We all laugh at Wllder, though.

      Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers.

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      • NORMNEALON
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        #23
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a look

        Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' -
        Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925
        FOH
        Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names.
        How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ?

        IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO.

        The ''put up yer dukes'' era !!!!
        We all laugh at Wllder, though.

        Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers.
        I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??).


        Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!!

        If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone .

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        • BodyBagz
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          #24
          Originally posted by NORMNEALON
          I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??).


          Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!!

          If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone .
          Sent him Green for the effort no doubt. But when names get bandied about in such high regard, it's....nonsense (sorry OP).

          I hope to be alive when our guys get talked about.

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          • kidbazooka
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            #25
            Thank god it’s you’re personal list because it’s not very good.

            Chavez way too high and Floyd way too low lol

            And Oscar ahead of Chavez lol

            Greb was so robotic and stiff by today standards it’s comical to have him anywhere near the top 10 lol

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              #26
              Originally posted by kidbazooka
              Thank god it’s you’re personal list because it’s not very good.

              Chavez way too high and Floyd way too low lol

              And Oscar ahead of Chavez lol

              Greb was so robotic and stiff by today standards it’s comical to have him anywhere near the top 10 lol
              They are on the same tier. Oscar went from 130 to 154. Plus he Fought Mayweather past his prime and made a good account of himself. Oscar has an underrated resume at WW.

              JCC did not beat any hall of famer but his lightweight career is legendary.

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                #27
                Originally posted by asero_831
                They are on the same tier. Oscar went from 130 to 154. Plus he Fought Mayweather past his prime and made a good account of himself. Oscar has an underrated resume at WW.

                JCC did not beat any hall of famer but his lightweight career is legendary.
                Wrong!!!!

                They are not on the same tier and I’m pretty sure most experts would agree Chavez ranks considerably greater p4p than Oscar does.

                Alsor Chavez has beaten HOF Edwin Rosario who if you know anything about him was considered one of the best lw at the time and ranked one of the greatest punchers ever Chavez destroyed him.

                Prime Camacho not an old one like the one Oscar or Tito faced.

                And many more future hof will be inducted from Chavez resume.

                Like I said it’s youre list everyone has one but it’s flawed big time.

                Alotta those old timers wouldn’t be top 20 in the modern era plain n simple.

                Again Floyd belongs somewhere in the high teens to low 20’s.

                Chavez belongs a lot closer to the top 10 Duran should be within top 5.
                Last edited by kidbazooka; 04-26-2020, 04:29 AM.

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                • BM dnobagaV
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                  #28
                  Why is Azumah Nelson so low?

                  I would also probably flip Lewis and Spinks.

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                  • NORMNEALON
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kidbazooka
                    Wrong!!!!

                    They are not on the same tier and I’m pretty sure most experts would agree Chavez ranks considerably greater p4p than Oscar does.

                    Also Chavez has beaten HOF Edwin Rosario who if you know anything about him was considered one of the best lw at the time and ranked one of the greatest pinchers ever Chavez destroyed him.

                    Prime Camacho not an old one like the one Oscar or Tito faced.

                    And many more future hof will be inducted from Chavez resume.

                    Like I said it’s youre list everyone has one but it’s flawed big time.

                    Alotta those old timers wouldn’t be top 20 in the modern era plain n simple.

                    Again Floyd belongs somewhere in the high teens to low 20’s.

                    Chavez belongs a lot closer to the top 10 Duran should be within top 5.
                    I agree with pretty much everything on this post . Facts . But I think that the old timers could be top 20 in the modern era for the reason that they would train the same way as modern greats if they came up now and there were no doubt some great athletes/ students of the game back in the day , it was just a very differnt sport then , but they would also be in differnt weight classes etc these days . This is why I like the IBOF way of doing things like I said above . The cut off date being 1943 I believe .

                    Well I dont agree with the OP's list , i respect his opinion and the time he put into it . When i do lists I always end up changing it alot as I go on , and studying deeper and learning new things that change my picks ( that's half the fun of these things , the knowledge of the sport you get from it ). That being said I think the OP will prolly learn some stuff from this thread that is going to change his list I would assume. Good topic none the less always lots to talk about and learn with all time lists . They are novelties but they are fun .

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