I cant name 100 all time greats on the top of my head, let alone having a list of top 150.
Top 150 Boxers of All-Time - My Personal List
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IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a lookThis is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time.
personally i use this criteria:
accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance,
longetivity and mainsteam appeal
I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG...
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Muhammad Ali
3 Harry Greb
4 Ezzard Charles
5 Henry Armstrong
6 Sam Langford
7 Manny Pacquiao
8 Roberto Duran
9 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
10 Archie Moore
11 Sugar Ray Leonard
12 Joe Louis
13 Willie Pep
14 Bob Fitzsimmons
15 Benny Leonard
16 Gene Tunney
17 Marvin Hagler
18 Barney Ross
19 Roy Jones Jr.
20 Carlos Monzon
21 Pernell Whitaker
22 Bernard Hopkins
23 Mickey Walker
24 Joe Gans
25 Tony Canzoneri
26 Evander Holyfield
27 Sandy Saddler
28 Jimmy Wilde
29 Eder Jofre
30 Jimmy McLarnin
31 Michael Spinks
32 Tommy Hearns
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Tommy Loughran
35 Alexis Arguello
36 Stanley Ketchel
37 Emile Griffith
38 Jose Napoles
39 Kid Gavilan
40 Charley Burley
41 Jack Dempsey
42 Joe Walcott
43 Holman Williams
44 Oscar De La Hoya
45 Julio Cesar Chavez
46 Ike Williams
47 Billy Conn
48 Terry McGovern
49 Bob Foster
50 Salvador Sanchez
51 Lennox Lewis
52 Larry Holmes
53 Erik Morales
54 Jake LaMotta
55 Juan Manuel Marquez
56 Marco Antonio Barrera
57 Packey McFarland
58 Panama Al Brown
59 Abe Attell
60 Tommy Ryan
61 Fighting Harada
62 Ruben Olivares
63 Jack Johnson
64 George Foreman
65 **** Tiger
66 Joe Frazier
67 Carlos Ortiz
68 Pancho Villa
69 Felix Trinidad
70 Mike Gibbons
71 Joe Calzaghe
72 Ricardo Lopez
73 Mike Tyson
74 Wilfredo Gomez
75 Carmen Basilio
76 Jack Britton
77 Ted Kid Lewis
78 Tommy Gibbons
79 Wladimir Klitschko
80 Andre Ward
81 Canelo Alvarez
82 Roman Gonzalez
83 Shane Mosley
84 Aaron Pryor
85 Manuel Ortiz
86 James Toney
87 Freddie Welsh
88 Kid Chocolate
89 Fidel LaBarba
90 Vitali Klitschko
91 Marcel Cerdan
92 Wilfred Benitez
93 Tiger Flowers
94 George Dixon
95 Nonito Donaire
96 Vicente Saldivar
97 Pete Herman
98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez
99 Carlos Zarate
100 Lou Ambers
101 Gennady Golovkin
102 Flash Elorde
103 Pascual Perez
104 Joe Brown
105 Johnny Kilbane
106 Frankie Genaro
107 Harold Johnson
108 Maxie Rosenbloom
109 Sonny Liston
110 Jimmy Bivins
111 Benny Lynch
112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
113 Miguel Canto
114 Tony Zale
115 Freedie Steele
116 Winky Wright
117 Miguel Cotto
118 Beau Jack
119 Johnny Dundee
120 Jack Dillon
121 Kostya Tszyu
122 Young Corbett III
123 Freddie Miller
124 Azumah Nelson
125 Lloyd Marshall
126 Baby Arizmendi
127 Jim Driscoll
128 Sergio Martinez
129 Midget Wolgast
130 Gene Fullmer
131 Eusebio Pedroza
132 Khaosai Galaxy
133 John Henry Lewis
134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
135 Timothy Bradley
136 Nino Benvenuti
137 Mike McCallum
138 Antonio Cervantes
139 Bob Montgomery
140 Harry Wills
141 Terence Crawford
142 Nicolino Locche
143 Ricky Hatton
144 Rafael Marquez
145 Tyson Fury
146 Duillio Loi
147 Israel Vasquez
148 Jung-Koo Chang
149 Jimmy Barry
150 Battling Nelson

Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' -
Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925
FOH
Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names.
How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ?
IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO.
The ''put up yer dukes'' era
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We all laugh at Wllder, though.
Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers.Comment
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I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??).IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a look
Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' -
Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925
FOH
Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names.
How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ?
IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO.
The ''put up yer dukes'' era
!!!!
We all laugh at Wllder, though.
Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers.
Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!!
If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone .Comment
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Sent him Green for the effort no doubt. But when names get bandied about in such high regard, it's....nonsense (sorry OP).I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??).
Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!!
If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone .
I hope to be alive when our guys get talked about.Comment
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Thank god it’s you’re personal list because it’s not very good.
Chavez way too high and Floyd way too low lol
And Oscar ahead of Chavez lol
Greb was so robotic and stiff by today standards it’s comical to have him anywhere near the top 10 lolComment
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They are on the same tier. Oscar went from 130 to 154. Plus he Fought Mayweather past his prime and made a good account of himself. Oscar has an underrated resume at WW.
JCC did not beat any hall of famer but his lightweight career is legendary.Comment
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Wrong!!!!
They are not on the same tier and I’m pretty sure most experts would agree Chavez ranks considerably greater p4p than Oscar does.
Alsor Chavez has beaten HOF Edwin Rosario who if you know anything about him was considered one of the best lw at the time and ranked one of the greatest punchers ever Chavez destroyed him.
Prime Camacho not an old one like the one Oscar or Tito faced.
And many more future hof will be inducted from Chavez resume.
Like I said it’s youre list everyone has one but it’s flawed big time.
Alotta those old timers wouldn’t be top 20 in the modern era plain n simple.
Again Floyd belongs somewhere in the high teens to low 20’s.
Chavez belongs a lot closer to the top 10 Duran should be within top 5.Last edited by kidbazooka; 04-26-2020, 04:29 AM.Comment
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I agree with pretty much everything on this post . Facts . But I think that the old timers could be top 20 in the modern era for the reason that they would train the same way as modern greats if they came up now and there were no doubt some great athletes/ students of the game back in the day , it was just a very differnt sport then , but they would also be in differnt weight classes etc these days . This is why I like the IBOF way of doing things like I said above . The cut off date being 1943 I believe .Wrong!!!!
They are not on the same tier and I’m pretty sure most experts would agree Chavez ranks considerably greater p4p than Oscar does.
Also Chavez has beaten HOF Edwin Rosario who if you know anything about him was considered one of the best lw at the time and ranked one of the greatest pinchers ever Chavez destroyed him.
Prime Camacho not an old one like the one Oscar or Tito faced.
And many more future hof will be inducted from Chavez resume.
Like I said it’s youre list everyone has one but it’s flawed big time.
Alotta those old timers wouldn’t be top 20 in the modern era plain n simple.
Again Floyd belongs somewhere in the high teens to low 20’s.
Chavez belongs a lot closer to the top 10 Duran should be within top 5.
Well I dont agree with the OP's list , i respect his opinion and the time he put into it . When i do lists I always end up changing it alot as I go on , and studying deeper and learning new things that change my picks ( that's half the fun of these things , the knowledge of the sport you get from it ). That being said I think the OP will prolly learn some stuff from this thread that is going to change his list I would assume. Good topic none the less always lots to talk about and learn with all time lists . They are novelties but they are fun .Comment
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