Originally posted by aboutfkntime
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Canelo and Cotto started to campaign at MW, not JMW...so those guys coming up to MW, and then expecting GGG to negotiate on weight with them, is not practical...if they were fighting at 154, and wanted GGG to meet them for a big money fight, and GGG turned it down, you would have more of a point.
But when you come up to the man's weight class, and expect the man at that weight class to negotiate on weight with you, it's silly...no serious boxing fan should be co-signing that...it's h.o sh.it.
If you are fighting at MW, and if GGG is the mando for that fight/belt (which he was for Cotto/Canelo winner) then he didn't need to budge on weight...if they didn't want to fight him at 160, he would get the belt...and of course that is what happened.
I can tell you're a pretty smart guy...but your logic is just not really there on a lot of stuff relative to GGG...you kind of miss the forest for the trees...you get so wrapped up in every little thing re GGG that you can't see the obvious picture.
Yes of course Cotto was at his best below MW...but he did fight at MW...he won a belt at MW lol...so there is no doubt about that...when you come up to a weight class, you should be expected to allow your opponent to fight at that weight limit, especially for a belt...just common sense...to go against that is h.o sh.it man.
One could argue GGG should have negotiated on weight with Canelo or Cotto to get a big fight earlier...but in the end, he didn't need to...and tbh I'm glad he didn't...it is always hard to assign proper credit for a fight with a catchweight.
And yes of course 154.2 or whatever would be MW...we all know that.
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