Prime Aaron Pryor v s Prime Julio Cesar Chavez who you got?

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Why do you feel the need to bring color into the debate ?

Well every fantasy match up you bring up is a dude of color vs a pale skin.

Personally I think in his prime Chavez 135-140 had all the tools. He’s gets uncharacteristically labeled as a non defensive skilled guy. But he could do it all. He just had the balls and gile if needed to take a few to land his hammers.

Prime for prime and a non Panama Lewis “drink from this cup” Pryor, I’d give Chavez the overall edge.

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It wasn't a "MOOT" point, you stated a blatant inaccuracy and I corrected you on it. And it wasn't even an argument, not even close; it was me schooling you. You're welcome.

Whoa looking and correcting spelling mistakes on boxing scene. Check

It wasn’t blatant and most people believe or think Leonard did want to avoid Pryor. Check

Schooling me on a fight that still never happen because you claimed to have proof with no sources with links or articles. Just your words ok . Check

3 checks, you obviously are spending too much time boosting your ego online during this pandemic. Haha.

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Well every fantasy match up you bring up is a dude of color vs a pale skin.

Personally I think in his prime Chavez 135-140 had all the tools. He’s gets uncharacteristically labeled as a non defensive skilled guy. But he could do it all. He just had the balls and gile if needed to take a few to land his hammers.

Prime for prime and a non Panama Lewis “drink from this cup” Pryor, I’d give Chavez the overall edge.

Not true my first fantasy fight I ever posted was Haye vs Jones jr.

Then I forget the rest. Then I posted about Pacquiao and Mosley both people of ”color”. Then the one with Tyson and Bowe. Even though I am not a “pale skin” I commented and said I choose fury over Bowe.

I guess I just can’t win.

[richardt]

Whoa looking and correcting spelling mistakes on boxing scene. Check

It wasn’t blatant and most people believe or think Leonard did want to avoid Pryor. Check

Schooling me on a fight that still never happen because you claimed to have proof with no sources with links or articles. Just your words ok . Check

3 checks, you obviously are spending too much time boosting your ego online during this pandemic. Haha.

Most people?? Show your "most people" sources! Furthermore, it is a fact the Leonard and Pryor signed to fight after Pryor turned down the original offer so your ducking crap crashed and burned! And time to torch your a$$! Are you ready to go down in flames??!! Go to Aaron Pryor's Wikipedia site. Everything I wrote is on that site. So much for "Just your words" crap, idiot. Now if your really want to look even more like a ***ing idiot, put up a $2,000 bet and I'll take your money because I've exchanged emails with Frankie, Aaron's wife and Sugar Ray Leonard. You're an idiot! Check. Stop embarrassing the *** out of yourself. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Stick a fork in you, you are done.

Read and weep:

On August 2, 1980, Pryor faced two-time world champion Antonio Cervantes of Colombia for the WBA light-welterweight championship. His purse was $50,000. The fight took place in Pryor's hometown of Cincinnati and was nationally televised by the CBS network. Pryor was knocked down in round one, but he rose and knocked out Cervantes in round four to become champion. He made his first title defense on November 22, 1980, knocking out Gaetan Hart in the sixth round. Pryor made $100,000 for the fight.

In December 1980, Pryor rejected an offer of $500,000 to fight Sugar Ray Leonard for the WBC welterweight championship because he wanted more money. When the WBC raised the offer to $750,000, he rejected that as well.[3] Pryor signed to fight WBC light-welterweight champion Saoul Mamby in a unification bout for $1 million. The bout was tentatively scheduled for February 7, 1981. However, the fight fell apart when the promoter, Harold Smith, disappeared amid allegations that he was involved in a $21.3 million fraud against Wells Fargo National Bank. Smith, whose real name was Ross Fields, was later sentenced to ten years in prison after he was convicted of 29 counts of fraud and embezzlement.[4][5]

Pryor was then offered $750,000 to fight Roberto Durán in April 1981, but Pryor turned it down because his new attorney told him not to sign anything until he worked out a new contract with manager Buddy LaRosa. By the time they worked out a new agreement, the chance to fight Durán was gone.[6]

On June 27, 1981, Pryor knocked out Lennox Blackmore in the second round. He then defended the title against undefeated Dujuan Johnson on November 14, 1981. Johnson knocked down Pryor in round one, but Pryor came back to stop Johnson in the seventh round.

Pryor knocked out Miguel Montilla in the twelfth round on March 21, 1982. His next title defense was against the undefeated Akio Kameda of Japan. The fight took place on July 4, 1982. Once again, Pryor was knocked down in the first round but came back to score a sixth-round knockout.

Pryor signed to face Sugar Ray Leonard for the undisputed welterweight championship in the fall of 1982 for $750,000. But before fighting Pryor, Leonard first had to defend his title against Roger Stafford in Buffalo, New York, on May 14, 1982. The Sunday before that bout, Pryor was driving to Buffalo from his Cincinnati home to taunt Leonard and hype their planned bout. Pryor heard on his car radio the news that Leonard had suffered a detached retina in his left eye and the fight was off. "I pulled off to the side of the road and I cried," Pryor said. Leonard retired six months later.[7]

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http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/08/sug...acquiao/19576/

That’s one.

Here’s one on boxing scene

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=276660

So I wasn’t the only one with this kind of mindset.


However thank you for the information. Even though Aaron did call out Leonard after the Hagler fight.

The $500k bid was a low ball. Aaron probably thought hr could get more. Then bad decision turned down 750k then later accepted it when the undisputed was open.

Ok understood, thank you for your details. I agree it wasn’t a duck however I wasn’t the lone goose that was under this mindset.

[elfag]

Chavez drills in his ass.

Pryor needed to cheat to beat a featherweight and that was his best win. What a joke. He ducked all the welterweights for good reason.

Chavez wasnt afraid to fight welterweights and took on everyone even in old age.

[elfag]

Most people?? Show your "most people" sources! Furthermore, it is a fact the Leonard and Pryor signed to fight after PRyor turned down the original offer so your ducking crap crashed and burned! And time to torch your a$$! Are you ready to go down in flames??!! Go to Aaron Pryor's Wikipedia site. Everything I wrote is on that site. So much for "Just your words" crap, idiot. Now if your really want to look even more like a ***ing idiot, put up a $2,000 bet and I'll take your money because I've exchanged emails with Frankie, Aaron's wife and Sugar Ray Leonard. You're an idiot! Check. Stop embarrassing the *** out of yourself. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Stick a fork in you, you are done.

Read and weep:

On August 2, 1980, Pryor faced two-time world champion Antonio Cervantes of Colombia for the WBA light-welterweight championship. His purse was $50,000. The fight took place in Pryor's hometown of Cincinnati and was nationally televised by the CBS network. Pryor was knocked down in round one, but he rose and knocked out Cervantes in round four to become champion. He made his first title defense on November 22, 1980, knocking out Gaetan Hart in the sixth round. Pryor made $100,000 for the fight.

In December 1980, Pryor rejected an offer of $500,000 to fight Sugar Ray Leonard for the WBC welterweight championship because he wanted more money. When the WBC raised the offer to $750,000, he rejected that as well.[3] Pryor signed to fight WBC light-welterweight champion Saoul Mamby in a unification bout for $1 million. The bout was tentatively scheduled for February 7, 1981. However, the fight fell apart when the promoter, Harold Smith, disappeared amid allegations that he was involved in a $21.3 million fraud against Wells Fargo National Bank. Smith, whose real name was Ross Fields, was later sentenced to ten years in prison after he was convicted of 29 counts of fraud and embezzlement.[4][5]

Pryor was then offered $750,000 to fight Roberto Durán in April 1981, but Pryor turned it down because his new attorney told him not to sign anything until he worked out a new contract with manager Buddy LaRosa. By the time they worked out a new agreement, the chance to fight Durán was gone.[6]

On June 27, 1981, Pryor knocked out Lennox Blackmore in the second round. He then defended the title against undefeated Dujuan Johnson on November 14, 1981. Johnson knocked down Pryor in round one, but Pryor came back to stop Johnson in the seventh round.

Pryor knocked out Miguel Montilla in the twelfth round on March 21, 1982. His next title defense was against the undefeated Akio Kameda of Japan. The fight took place on July 4, 1982. Once again, Pryor was knocked down in the first round but came back to score a sixth-round knockout.

Pryor signed to face Sugar Ray Leonard for the undisputed welterweight championship in the fall of 1982 for $750,000. But before fighting Pryor, Leonard first had to defend his title against Roger Stafford in Buffalo, New York, on May 14, 1982. The Sunday before that bout, Pryor was driving to Buffalo from his Cincinnati home to taunt Leonard and hype their planned bout. Pryor heard on his car radio the news that Leonard had suffered a detached retina in his left eye and the fight was off. "I pulled off to the side of the road and I cried," Pryor said. Leonard retired six months later.[7]

lol what a CHICKEN, duck duck duck

but but I cant fight Roberto, my attorney said you'll kick my ass. I mean something about contracts.

[White Mandela]

Chavez by KO! Easy work!

[White Mandela]

Chavez drills in his ass.

He asked who’d win in a fight, not what Oscar gets up to at weekends.

[richardt]

http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/08/sug...acquiao/19576/

That’s one.

Here’s one on boxing scene

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=276660

So I wasn’t the only one with this kind of mindset.


However thank you for the information. Even though Aaron did call out Leonard after the Hagler fight.

The $500k bid was a low ball. Aaron probably thought hr could get more. Then bad decision turned down 750k then later accepted it when the undisputed was open.

Ok understood, thank you for your details. I agree it wasn’t a duck however I wasn’t the lone goose that was under this mindset.

The fact that two offers were made by Leonard to Pryor which clearly illustrate that Leonard did not duck Pryor. Four months after the Hagler fight, Aaron fought and was stopped by Bobby Joe Young after a two year absence which occurred after Pryor had won a split decision against Gary Hinton which was clearly when Pryor was in decline and it was past the expiration date for that fight. But Pryor made more money against Arguello than he would have against Leonard according to records so he did well financially for that pair of fights. But Pryor and Leonard right up to Pryor's death were very close and visited each roughly 3 times a year and met with other 76 olympians talking about the good old days. Hopefully Ray helped Aaron financially in the later years.