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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #11
    Joshua, Canelo and Pacquiao are the only fighters who have a real fan base.

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    • siablo14
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      #12
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      Joshua, Canelo and Pacquiao are the only fighters who have a real fan base.
      Wilder?
      Thurman usually put up numbers too.

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        #13
        I think the tier under the three I mentioned have boxing fans as fans. I think those fans are actually fans of boxing more than the fighter themselves. So I think the Wilder and Thurman fan bases are fans of them being among the best in their division. I think when Canelo, Joshua and Pacquiao are completely done, they could still sell out a football stadium and be on pay per view. I don’t see that with anyone else.

        Originally posted by siablo14
        Wilder?
        Thurman usually put up numbers too.

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        • paulf
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          #14
          There are people with a national fanbase but no grassroots/hometown fanbase. Example: Devon Alexander was huge in St. Louis, meanwhile Tim Bradley couldn't fill a parking lot. Bradley, though beating guys like Alexander, eventually started putting up good TV numbers.

          Sergio Martinez was that way. Paul Williams. Golovkin.

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          • TheMyspaceDayz
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            #15
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            Stop it... If so a guy with an ugly style he has wouldn't have the name or presence he has in the sport.
            He was someone they tried to cram down the boxing worlds throat as a living legend. Anyone with a sceptical eye saw through that and straight to the favourable treatment. Never made a big splash outside of North America. He commands no respect from me or anyone else who knows boxing. At least not to the degree that you Ward fans seem to respect him.

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            • Mammoth
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              #16
              Demetrius Andrade comes to mind....

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              • KillaMane26
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                #17
                Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                He was someone they tried to cram down the boxing worlds throat as a living legend. Anyone with a sceptical eye saw through that and straight to the favourable treatment. Never made a big splash outside of North America. He commands no respect from me or anyone else who knows boxing. At least not to the degree that you Ward fans seem to respect him.

                "Anyone who knows boxing"

                If u don't like him cool. But that statement was 100% hater trash. So who are yo fav. Fighters then sir

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  I think the tier under the three I mentioned have boxing fans as fans. I think those fans are actually fans of boxing more than the fighter themselves. So I think the Wilder and Thurman fan bases are fans of them being among the best in their division. I think when Canelo, Joshua and Pacquiao are completely done, they could still sell out a football stadium and be on pay per view. I don’t see that with anyone else.
                  Idk alot of fans only follow the 3 you mentioned.

                  At least guys like Thurman have fans who follow other guys.

                  Wilder tho and others 100% true

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #19
                    old light guys no one gives a **** about like Jack McAuliffe and Jimmy Barry.

                    Sometimes being really good and having beaten a lot of great names but having never gotten a chance at the title makes you have a greater mystique like with Sam Langford. Sometimes it just makes you be forgotten.

                    Holman Williams 146-31

                    debut 1932-08-12

                    Williams was known as a boxer-puncher early in his career, but he become a defensive specialist after his hands were broken several times. He had an excellent jab, deft footwork, and taut defense. "Holman Williams was a great boxer, but he never got the recognition because he wasn't a puncher," Futch said. "He had the finesse of a Ray Robinson, but no punch."

                    Williams scored victories over notable boxers such as Steve Belloise, Eddie Booker, Charley Burley, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore, Bob Satterfield, and Kid Tunero. In 1946, after nearly 14 years as a pro, he lost back-to-back decisions to Marcel Cerdan and Jake LaMotta.

                    More recently:

                    Harry Simon

                    Dmitry Pirog

                    Mihai Leu

                    Terry Marsh

                    Sven Ottke

                    all prove you need more than an 0 to have an enduring fanbase.



                    No one's Valero's fan either...for obvious reasons.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      Demetrius Andrade comes to mind....
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      old light guys no one gives a **** about like Jack McAuliffe and Jimmy Barry.

                      Sometimes being really good and having beaten a lot of great names but having never gotten a chance at the title makes you have a greater mystique like with Sam Langford. Sometimes it just makes you be forgotten.

                      Holman Williams 146-31

                      debut 1932-08-12

                      Williams was known as a boxer-puncher early in his career, but he become a defensive specialist after his hands were broken several times. He had an excellent jab, deft footwork, and taut defense. "Holman Williams was a great boxer, but he never got the recognition because he wasn't a puncher," Futch said. "He had the finesse of a Ray Robinson, but no punch."

                      Williams scored victories over notable boxers such as Steve Belloise, Eddie Booker, Charley Burley, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Archie Moore, Bob Satterfield, and Kid Tunero. In 1946, after nearly 14 years as a pro, he lost back-to-back decisions to Marcel Cerdan and Jake LaMotta.

                      More recently:

                      Harry Simon

                      Dmitry Pirog

                      Mihai Leu

                      Terry Marsh

                      Sven Ottke

                      all prove you need more than an 0 to have an enduring fanbase.



                      No one's Valero's fan either...for obvious reasons.
                      There was a group of fighters like Holman Williams back in the day.
                      Damn it, you are making me want to research it but they literally fought everyone everywhere. Argh what name did they go by?

                      I am trying to reconcile tax issues so this is a distraction

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