Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Crawford, Trinidad-Mosley, Mayweather
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Lol ok man
Odds mean nothing and it was impossible for Floyd to have been an underdog or have closer odds but:
Ali was a 7 to 1 underdog against Liston
Ali was a 4 to 1 underdog against Foreman
Jones was a 2 to 1 underdog against Toney
Leonard was a 3 to 1 underdog against Hagler
Leonard was a 2.5 to 1 underdog against Hearns
The list goes on and on... So yes, odds does paint a clear picture of "odds" at the time of the fight.
You still have yet to tell me who G beat that was better than Canelo's win over Kovalev. If that win was so weak, surely G should have one better, no?
Lastly, you kill your own theory by saying an old Golovkin beat Canelo. If G beat Canelo while he was over 35, doesn't that prove that guys can still compete at 35 and over? If that's the case, then there's nothing wrong with Canelo beating the guy's you just named especially when they were top 3 or lower at the time
Now to your comment of "Lastly, you kill your own theory by saying an old Golovkin beat Canelo. If G beat Canelo while he was over 35, doesn't that prove that guys can still compete at 35 and over?".
I never said that guys can't compete over 35, but boxers are without a doubt on the decline by the age. Hardly ever is a boxer better in their mid to late 30s than they were in their 20s. Especially if they don't use peds. So what i proved was that even a past prime ggg was better than a prime Canelo.Comment
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your argument of comparing one fighters resume to another by utlizing the odds is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. The better you are ,the more favored you'd be, over even top fighters. Cotto was the perfect example in what his odds were as a younger bigger man vs Floyd compared to what he was as an older smaller man vs Canelo. All you did was prove that Canelo is inferior to Floyd with that argument. Based on your logic , should I say that Danny Garcia has a better resume than Canelo because he went into more fights as an underdog since he was the underdog vs Khan, mathysse , and Thurman?
Now to your comment of "Lastly, you kill your own theory by saying an old Golovkin beat Canelo. If G beat Canelo while he was over 35, doesn't that prove that guys can still compete at 35 and over?".
I never said that guys can't compete over 35, but boxers are without a doubt on the decline by the age. Hardly ever is a boxer better in their mid to late 30s than they were in their 20s. Especially if they don't use peds. So what i proved was that even a past prime ggg was better than a prime Canelo.
Did you even read one sentence of my odds post? It's to speak to "risk", it had nothing to do with resume, but again "risk".
If Floyd fought G, Ward or Hopkins at 160, what would be the risk/odds of those fights?
You completely skipped over the odds comparisons of Ali, SRL, Jones, etc.
Outside of risk, when I wanted to compare actual resumes, I did just that; compared resumes. Take a look back at my post.
Canelo has beat more top 5 fighters over 4 weight classes than G has done in one weight class.
Jesus Christ, you still cant post 1 victory that G has that's greater than Kovalev?Comment
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I don't know who this Jab Jab Boom guy is, not sure if he's breadman or not, but it takes a special kind of hatred to devote energy to hating on Canelo's risk taking and resume all the while defending G. That's special.
Anyway, I'm out. You guy's be safe.Comment
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you mean the same type of energy it took you to create a thesis on defending Canelo that you copy and paste anytime someone dares to insult his honor?? Not once did I defend gggs resume but you're too illiterate to comprehend that so Fk off ya groupie. Your dumbass chollo username tells me all I need to know about why you're a biased Canelo ball licker. Put on your ****ies and go cut the grass b***h boy.Comment
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Chollo Vista
Told you guys. The LDBC and the likes of Fap Fap Boom are the real racists of the forum. LolComment
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you mean the same type of energy it took you to create a thesis on defending Canelo that you copy and paste anytime someone dares to insult his honor?? Not once did I defend gggs resume but you're too illiterate to comprehend that so Fk off ya groupie. Your dumbass chollo username tells me all I need to know about why you're a biased Canelo ball licker. Put on your ****ies and go cut the grass b***h boy.here's a bottle boy. You people are the real race baiters. You can say any racist nonsense, but as soon as someone says anything about you people, it's off to the mods.
Keep crying homö. You're just mad most all the black fighters from PBC are a bunch of whiners that think they're worth more than they are by not taking the bigger challenges and waiting for the one big payday.Comment
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I've gotten more green than red.
You on the other hand sound like a bitter höe that's pissed off someone other than a black is at the top of the sport.Comment
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Chollo Vista
Told you guys. The LDBC and the likes of Fap Fap Boom are the real racists of the forum. LolComment
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LMAO. But to Jrocks credit, Julian always praises Canelo as the best. Unfortunately his thug headed trainer hangs around the LDBC. As Wilder did... the LDBC are a jinx to Black American athletes. These guys called Tyson, Foreman, RJJ, BHop, Ward, Bradley all “c00ns.” Why NSB employs Breadman who hangs around guys like Fred Hawthorne is just funny stuff! Fred Hawthorne, “the multimillionaire” he claims to be yet posts PayPal donation links on his whack channel. The same Fred that said he has the backing to even go against Al Haymon. Yes, Breadman hangs out with this guy...
While other mailbag kings like Doug Fischer and Steve Kim have said Hawthorne is an idiot! Lol.
Breadman is trash. that’s on him.Comment
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