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  • #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    If if if.

    The fact is Klitschko didn't ever do it, period. So he doesn't get credit for doing it.

    Crawford's resume isn't the greatest, I've said so myself in other threads. But he won all the belts in a weight division and you can't take that away from him.
    Double standards. Canelo has fought better guys than Indongo or Postol but he doesn't credit for any names.. Any P4P guy beats Indongo or Postol without question. Point is when guys leave the division it also coincides with politics of rival promoters or better money fights.

    We know Danny Garcia would've wasted time staying at 140 because it was Haymon vs Top Rank. Swift Garcia would've knocked out Postol and Indongo though he didn't nor couldn't stay because Haymon was building PBC in 2015 with a new roadmap. Both Crawford and Garcia walk around the same weight.

    Crawford had it easy because they were in-house fights when Swift moved up. To put into context, Canelo fought GGG and was supposed to fight Andrade for Undisputed but all of industry reported that Andrade wasn't approved for 2019 and we got stories about GBP vs Canelo fallouts. Canelo was jipped Undisputed because Hearn got a level up on Skipper - with an already conflict of interest - guys at DAZN. Hearn stopped it because he knows GBP would own Middleweight, especially after Eddie seeing Canelo handle and steal Matchroom's-Jacobs strap.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      If if if.

      The fact is Klitschko didn't ever do it, period. So he doesn't get credit for doing it.

      Crawford's resume isn't the greatest, I've said so myself in other threads. But he won all the belts in a weight division and you can't take that away from him.
      Easy to win belts vs bums. How is getting a bunch of belts vs nobodies a great accomplishment?

      Again, same people that bash Canelo for getting a belt from Rocky Feilding are praising Crawford for getting 4 belts from four "Rocky Feildings"

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
        Easy to win belts vs bums. How is getting a bunch of belts vs nobodies a great accomplishment?

        Again, same people that bash Canelo for getting a belt from Rocky Feilding are praising Crawford for getting 4 belts from four "Rocky Feildings"
        There are a bunch of divisions that are weak yet still nobody can unifiy them.

        The very small handful of guys who actually do it deserve credit.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
          Is that why he fought Golovkin and Jacobs the #1,#2 MW at the time? FOH.
          well it's why he fought 36 yr old little cotto instead of ggg for his first mw title and then waited 2 yrs to fight a then 35 yr old ggg. It's why he fought beefy smith when he wanted to get back a 154 pound title, it's why he fought Rocky Fielding at 168, it's why he fought a 36 yr old washed up raging alcoholic who was fighting on just 10 weeks rest in kovalev, and it's why he picked saunders now. It's also why he's going to fight a 38 yr old ggg in Sept who should've list to dervenchenko. He's a complete opportunist who mastered minimising risk. So fk off groupie.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            There are a bunch of divisions that are weak yet still nobody can unifiy them.

            The very small handful of guys who actually do it deserve credit.
            Politics. Canelo unifying with Jacobs and GGG, given adversity and difficulty is levels above Crawford fighting Postol or Indongo.

            GBP vs K2 (Loeffer at the time) - easy to make.
            GBP vs Matchoom (Jacobs) - easier to make.

            Matchroom vs PBC (Andrade vs Charlo) tic toc tic toc...

            Top Rank vs PBC (Spence vs Crawford) tic toc tic toc...

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              well it's why he fought 36 yr old little cotto instead of ggg for his first mw title and then waited 2 yrs to fight a then 35 yr old ggg. It's why he fought beefy smith when he wanted to get back a 154 pound title, it's why he fought Rocky Fielding at 168, it's why he fought a 36 yr old washed up raging alcoholic who was fighting on just 10 weeks rest in kovalev, and it's why he picked saunders now. It's also why he's going to fight a 38 yr old ggg in Sept who should've list to dervenchenko. He's a complete opportunist who mastered minimising risk. So fk off groupie.
              Cotto always wanted to avenge his brother's loss and Roc Nation sports was always A side. Cotto's A side narratives predate and override Canelo Alvarez on the scene. Cotto got his 155 stipulation, and most promoters would salivate in a Mexican vs Puerto Rican proven gate sales and PPV trajectory.

              Gennady Golovkin ducked Canelo before the Cotto fight even happened. Canelo was a proven star. If Abel Sanchez and Golovkin truly felt they could beat Canelo they would've taken Canelo's bluff for 155. The fact that Gennady and Canelo would rehydrate the same weight at Middleweight means they didn't risk it against Canelo. Anything above 154 is Middleweight. Cotto nor Canelo created catchweight title fights.

              The truth of the matter is you GGG diehards or Canelo haters are in a conundrum because if you acknowledge saying that GGG could make 154 for Floyd ( as they said so himself) or that GGG said he's ''not a big Middleweight'' then it proves he didn't have confidence in beating Canelo. GGG could've campaigned at 154 since turning pro if it were easy as he stated.

              They're just all bullshet. Karma God favors warriors. GGG was all hype cause he didn't dare to be great. GGG is a GREAT fighter and at the same time GREAT non risk taker, particular never having moved up beyond 160 when he ''wasn't get fights'' dating back to Sturm.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez View Post
                Cotto always wanted to avenge his brother's loss and Roc Nation sports was always A side. Cotto's A side narratives predate and override Canelo Alvarez on the scene. Cotto got his 155 stipulation, and most promoters would salivate in a Mexican vs Puerto Rican proven gate sales and PPV trajectory.

                Gennady Golovkin ducked Canelo before the Cotto fight even happened. Canelo was a proven star. If Abel Sanchez and Golovkin truly felt they could beat Canelo they would've taken Canelo's bluff for 155. The fact that Gennady and Canelo would rehydrate the same weight at Middleweight means they didn't risk it against Canelo. Anything above 154 is Middleweight. Cotto nor Canelo created catchweight title fights.

                The truth of the matter is you GGG diehards or Canelo haters are in a conundrum because if you acknowledge saying that GGG could make 154 for Floyd ( as they said so himself) or that GGG said he's ''not a big Middleweight'' then it proves he didn't have confidence in beating Canelo. GGG could've campaigned at 154 since turning pro if it were easy as he stated.

                They're just all bullshet. Karma God favors warriors. GGG was all hype cause he didn't dare to be great. GGG is a GREAT fighter and at the same time GREAT non risk taker, particular never having moved up beyond 160 when he ''wasn't get fights'' dating back to Sturm.
                now you're following me across forums? Damn, I must've hurt your feelings. 1. If 155 was only cottos preference , then why is 155 known as Canelo weight and why was that the weight Canelo initially said would be the only way he'd fight ggg? Meanwhile, canelos day of fight weight was higher than gggs, Canelo complained about moving up 5 pounds for ggg but jumped up 7.5 pounds for Chavez jr, 8 pounds for Fielding and 15 pounds for kovalev with no complaints. notice the hypocrisy? Quite the conundrum, huh? 2. All of your A side and business talk with the cotto fight goes right out the window when you factor in that canelos fight with ggg sold about 600k more ppvs than his ppv vs cotto did. So Canelo, was taking fights for less money against lesser fighters like Khan,smith, Chavez jr, rather than making more money to face ggg at that time. That's the ultimate duck.

                Just delete your account (all 3 of them),it's getting more embarrassing for you by the day.
                Last edited by Jab jab boom; 04-19-2020, 10:54 AM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                  now you're following me across forums? Damn, I must've hurt your feelings. 1. If 155 was only cottos preference , then why is 155 known as Canelo weight and why was that the weight Canelo initially said would be the only way he'd fight ggg? Meanwhile, canelos day of fight weight was higher than gggs, Canelo complained about moving up 5 pounds for ggg but jumped up 7.5 pounds for Chavez jr, 8 pounds for Fielding and 15 pounds for kovalev with no complaints. notice the hypocrisy? Quite the conundrum, huh? 2. All of your A side and business talk with the cotto fight goes right out the window when you factor in that canelos fight with ggg sold about 600k more ppvs than his ppv vs cotto did. So Canelo, was taking fights for less money against lesser fighters like Khan,smith, Chavez jr, rather than making more money to face ggg at that time. That's the ultimate duck.

                  Just delete your account (all 3 if them),it's getting more embarrassing for you by the day.
                  Damn bruh! It was easing murking your post. No matter how much you try discrediting Canelo, he and Reynoso don’t lose to Rosario types or a Jermall Charlo type of counter. Eddy Reynoso doesn’t approve of Breadman and Jrock prison fantasies being said to Fred Hawthorne in a whip!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    well it's why he fought 36 yr old little cotto instead of ggg for his first mw title and then waited 2 yrs to fight a then 35 yr old ggg. It's why he fought beefy smith when he wanted to get back a 154 pound title, it's why he fought Rocky Fielding at 168, it's why he fought a 36 yr old washed up raging alcoholic who was fighting on just 10 weeks rest in kovalev, and it's why he picked saunders now. It's also why he's going to fight a 38 yr old ggg in Sept who should've list to dervenchenko. He's a complete opportunist who mastered minimising risk. So fk off groupie.
                    Cotto was the lineal champion. Its all about being the lineal champion, I mean that was the excuse by everyone when Mayweather fought Baldomir.

                    Canelo fights Kovalev and Feilding to test the waters at that weight, he gets shït for it, Crawford, and everyone at PBC fight nothing but bums on a regular basis, they get praised. "Eyeball test doe". Fück outta here.

                    Nothing is guaranteed right now. Its better than the Spence "I'll fight Crawford in 2021 or when it makes sense" bullshït. Better than Crawford's next planned fight vs another nobody.

                    Saunders is a beltholder, Canelo fighting him with zero politics on the same network is the best option. But here come the double standards, when it was Crawford fighting for multiple belts against worse competition than Saunders and only fighting bums that are on his same network, he's being praised, because he's getting belts and its not his fault everyone else fights in different networks.

                    Fk off hater.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      There are a bunch of divisions that are weak yet still nobody can unifiy them.

                      The very small handful of guys who actually do it deserve credit.
                      Name those weak divisions. Name some worse belt holders that are better than Crawford's best win.

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