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  • pollywog
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    #11
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    Good strategy but it has to come off the front foot. It's where he generates his power from. He can't land any meaningful power punches while backing up on the ropes.
    Fury sees that set up coming in slow motion and defuses it before wilder even knows whats happening.

    Its definitely a good strategy that has worked so many times on lesser opponents, but kronk fury is a whole nother beast wilder has no idea how to tame.

    Fact is Fury is bigger, stronger, cleverer, more adaptable and fearless.

    Wilder simply cant intimidate Fury by coming forward.

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    • champion4ever
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jax teller
      LMAO Wilders not a fecking slugger thats someone like Chisora or Whyte. He's a sniper - low punch output, long range, circles his opponent takes his time until he lands the right shot. Wilder never trades punches he just takes his beating until it's his turn like in the Ortiz 1, he can't string more than two punches together.

      This is some next level delusion he could have traded when Fury was battering him but he didn't.

      Even the hurt Breazealle backed him off, this guy isn't a slugger.
      My bad mate; What I meant to say is that he is a puncher and as we know punchers generate all of their power fighting off the front foot.

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      • kiDynamite92
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        #13
        Originally posted by denium
        Kronk Fury will walk Wilder down and smash him to bits. Deontay doesn't have the size or the skills to impose his will.

        Wilder's best bet is just to come up out swinging for the fences and pray something lands before he gets countered.
        pretty much.

        That's all he's got and I think that's what he'll do. Fury just needs to look for the counter and it will be goodnight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by pollywog
          Fury sees that set up coming in slow motion and defuses it before wilder even knows whats happening.

          Its definitely a good strategy that has worked so many times on lesser opponents, but kronk fury is a whole nother beast wilder has no idea how to tame.

          Fact is Fury is bigger, stronger, cleverer, more adaptable and fearless.

          Wilder simply cant intimidate Fury by coming forward.
          Whatever he has to do he has to do but he can't afford to fight backwards. If he has to clinch, grab or wrestle to avoid fighting backwards then so be it.

          There's one thing he can do in order to offset that strategy is by beating Tyson Fury to punch and getting his punches off first. He has to come forward and throw many punches in bunches.

          Wilder's weakness is that he waits for his opponents to take the lead by getting their punches off first then he reacts.

          He has to fight Fury not counterpunch or box him.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kiDynamite92
            pretty much.

            That's all he's got and I think that's what he'll do. Fury just needs to look for the counter and it will be goodnight.
            Unleash the windmill in 7 seconds of fury from the get go.

            That would be fun to watch!

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              #16
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              Whatever he has to do he has to do but he can't afford to fight backwards. If he has to clinch, grab or wrestle to avoid fighting backwards then so be it.

              There's one thing he can do in order to offset that strategy is by beating Tyson Fury to punch and getting his punches off first. He has to come forward and throw many punches in bunches.

              Wilder's weakness is that he waits for his opponents to take the lead by getting their punches off first then he reacts.

              He has to fight Fury not counterpunch or box him.
              I agree!

              The thing is wilder doesn't throw punches in bunches unless hes in full blown windmill mode.

              The other thing is, fury is a natural born fighter who knows every trick in the book.

              Wilder doesnn't appear to have made it past the introduction and if he has, he skipped the chapters on clinching, grabbing and wrestling preferring to memorise only the chapter on lowering the goom with the right hand.

              He needs a trainer that can offer up some wrinkles to his game and knows how to read Fury.

              Good luck with that!

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                #17
                Originally posted by pollywog
                Unleash the windmill in 7 seconds of fury from the get go.

                That would be fun to watch!
                All of a sudden the rematch doesn't sound so bad.

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                  #18
                  Or box in general

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                  • Jkp
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                    #19
                    Backing away from a 6 foot stationary Mexican blob, for 12 rounds is very different than backing away from a mobile 6'9 monster like fury.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      Well Wilder is a slugger. He is not accustomed to fighting on the back foot. In the trilogy he has to stake out his territory in the center of the ring and don't move backwards.

                      Force Fury to back up because the last thing Fury wants to do is to trade and exchange punches with Wilder in the center of the ring. It is too risky.
                      Funny cuz Fury went straight to the middle of the ring and started exchanging punches from the moment the 1st bell rang in the last fight.

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