If a fighter turns his back or ducks low should opponent be allowed to dome shot him

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  • Black Jesus
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    #1

    If a fighter turns his back or ducks low should opponent be allowed to dome shot him

    To the back of the head?

    I feel like I've seen old school guys like Marciano finishing off their opponents like that
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    #2
    I think people get hung up on "rules" when it comes to this issue and their opinion will be based on where their bias is. Ie the first Fury-Wilder knockdown. Everyone supporting Wilder says it's back of the head, fury fans say it was a legal shot.

    I tend to think it was legal because Fury wasnt aiming for the back of his head, and in certain camera angles it actually looks like the first impact was on his ear, it's not clear but the I'd give Fury the benefit of the doubt because it was a standard right hook which landed the way it did because of the way Wilder moved away. Also Wilder has a habit of complaining about back of head shots sometimes even when they seemed ok. I noticed this in the first round of the first fight and a couple of other fights.

    Fact is you have to judge each case on it's own merit and it's not a black and white answer.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #3
      Originally posted by Black Jesus
      To the back of the head?

      I feel like I've seen old school guys like Marciano finishing off their opponents like that




      Originally posted by Black Jesus
      To the back of the head?

      I feel like I've seen old school guys like Marciano finishing off their opponents like that



      they are two completely different scenarios

      if a fighter turns his back to an opponent... the ref should probably stop the fight, and often does

      seriously, who does that? ... it is totally pointless and extremely dangerous, you are clearly in no position to defend yourself

      that is a common trait you see in kids/young guys who are inexperienced, and it is quickly coached out of them... ring-time solves that, experienced kids almost never turn their back to an opponent

      you will see experienced fighters do it on occasion... but very rarely, and only if they have been overwhelmed/battered/hurt for the first time... at that point the fight should be stopped

      if you cannot defend yourself, it is the ref duty to stop the fight... and you cannot defend yourself if you cannot see the punches coming

      it is 100% legal to hook someone in the side of the head if they turn their back, and you absolutely should do it

      regarding when a fighter ducks low... a ref will usually let it slide if a fighter ducks into a shot, because the punch is deemed unintentional

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      • TonyGe
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        #4
        I you duck below the opponents waist its actually a foul.

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        • _Rexy_
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          #5
          The ref DOES allow for punching to the back of the head when that happens. That's why you'll see the ref tell the fighter "you ducked into that" or "you turned into that" when they complain about rabbit punches.

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          • anonymous2.0
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            #6
            Originally posted by Black Jesus
            To the back of the head?

            I feel like I've seen old school guys like Marciano finishing off their opponents like that
            No, but turning your back should be an automatic disqualifying lose, see example

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #7
              Originally posted by anonymous2.0
              No, but turning your back should be an automatic disqualifying lose, see example



              yea, that fight is a great example of what I was saying

              you will see experienced fighters do it on occasion... but very rarely, and only if they have been overwhelmed/battered/hurt for the first time... at that point the fight should be stopped

              if you cannot defend yourself, it is the ref duty to stop the fight... and you cannot defend yourself if you cannot see the punches coming

              it is 100% legal to hook someone in the side of the head if they turn their back, and you absolutely should do it
              Angulo is a warrior, he was badly hurt in that fight... Lara fk'd him up

              broken orbital bone, great work by the referee

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              • Bashhh
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                #8
                Fighter is allowed to do anything and everything it's up to the ref to keep the other guy from dying

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                  No, but turning your back should be an automatic disqualifying lose, see example

                  Great example. I was going to use the punch to the back of the head that Foreman gave Frazier when Frazier tried to run.

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