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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    What happened to German boxing?

    Around 5-10 years ago they had lots of big shows over there with guys like the Klitschko brothers, Huck, Abraham, Sturm, Braehmer, Stieglitz etc.

    Now they barely ever have any big fights or events. Anyone know why?
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    Not sure, but I always wondered how Juergen Breahmer got away with the nickname “The Thousand Year Talent”.
    HitLer names his empire The Thousand Year Reich.

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      Originally posted by millcitymauler
      Not sure, but I always wondered how Juergen Breahmer got away with the nickname “The Thousand Year Talent”.
      HitLer names his empire The Thousand Year Reich.
      Yikes!! I never knew that was his nickname, I’m surprised it wasn’t banned.

      Hitler saw himself of the same status as the Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne and saw his rise to prominence as a continuation of that lineage, hence why we wanted the name Thousand Year Reich. Unfortunately for him he had to settle for Third Reich and it only lasted 12 years.😂

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        German boxing was really top-heavy, with the big names doing big business and driving German boxing's success. But the stables weren't deep with talent. Like boxing anywhere else: when the bigger stars fade or retire, and a lot of the up-and coming talent fails to take their place, boxing takes a huge hit.

        Universum was the driver behind much of German boxing's success in the 90's and 2000's. They got to a place where they were raking in money from the Klitschkos and had a lucrative TV contract, but got greedy and built a reputation for putting on too many garbage showcase fights and cheating fights out of money. Wasted guys like (much of) Golovkin and Erdei's careers. The Klitschkos left and the TV contract expired, and suddenly Universum went from a force in Geman boxing to bankrupt.

        Fritz Sdune, another force in German boxing, who trained Vitali Klitschko, Strum, Michalczewski, and pretty much every other name in Germany boxing the pack 20 years, died in 2014. Big loss.

        There are still lots of shows going on across Germany when there's not a pandemic going on. It's just going to take a big star to emerge to get German boxing going again.

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          german boxing is crap. it was built on sand no real talent coming from the german gyms never has been never will be.

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            There is not much boxing anywhere right now but most of those fighters named were beat and limited talent to take their place.

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              They lost a load of Polish talent to the US. Eastern European talent is operating more often in the US and UK markets, they also have a massive gap in talent right now. Culcay is the best they have right now and he's only a nearly man even if he's quite good. Formella is tough, has good output and movement but is limited. Boesel is very stiff and robotic, even if he's decent.
              Their best talents are Abass Baraou and Leon Bunn who I'm not convinced would be champions. They could've had something in Tyron Zeuge but he got smoked by Rocky bloody Fielding.

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                Originally posted by paulf
                German boxing was really top-heavy, with the big names doing big business and driving German boxing's success. But the stables weren't deep with talent. Like boxing anywhere else: when the bigger stars fade or retire, and a lot of the up-and coming talent fails to take their place, boxing takes a huge hit.

                Universum was the driver behind much of German boxing's success in the 90's and 2000's. They got to a place where they were raking in money from the Klitschkos and had a lucrative TV contract, but got greedy and built a reputation for putting on too many garbage showcase fights and cheating fights out of money. Wasted guys like (much of) Golovkin and Erdei's careers. The Klitschkos left and the TV contract expired, and suddenly Universum went from a force in Geman boxing to bankrupt.

                Fritz Sdune, another force in German boxing, who trained Vitali Klitschko, Strum, Michalczewski, and pretty much every other name in Germany boxing the pack 20 years, died in 2014. Big loss.

                There are still lots of shows going on across Germany when there's not a pandemic going on. It's just going to take a big star to emerge to get German boxing going again.
                Thanks for the info dude...

                I remember the Klitschko’s used to fight on RTL which is a terrestrial channel so would have needed a huge audience to draw income. Without a big star I imagine boxing has been put on the back burner.

                I remember the Sauerland cards on SAT1 too, I’m assuming they’ve had the same problem. Kalle has obviously branched out into the global market with the WBSS as well.

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                  Originally posted by miamike
                  There is not much boxing anywhere right now but most of those fighters named were beat and limited talent to take their place.
                  They are pretty much all retired...

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                    Originally posted by BoloShot
                    They lost a load of Polish talent to the US. Eastern European talent is operating more often in the US and UK markets, they also have a massive gap in talent right now. Culcay is the best they have right now and he's only a nearly man even if he's quite good. Formella is tough, has good output and movement but is limited. Boesel is very stiff and robotic, even if he's decent.
                    Their best talents are Abass Baraou and Leon Bunn who I'm not convinced would be champions. They could've had something in Tyron Zeuge but he got smoked by Rocky bloody Fielding.
                    Good points... the talent really isn’t there atm.

                    I was actually at Zeuge-Fielding, 9 hour f***ing train journey, after a 4 hour drive down to London.😂 Big Fielding fan so worth it.

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