So far who has accomplished more: Lomachenko or Ward?

[just the facts]

Andre Ward:

Allan Green (Ring #8 - 168)

Sakio Bika (Ring #6 - 168)

Arthur Abraham (Ring #9)

Carl Froch (Ring #2 - 168)

Chad Dawson (Ring Champion - 175)

Edwin Rodriguez (Ring #10/TBRB #6 - 168)

Sergey Kovalev (Ring/TBRB #2 - 175)

Sergey Kovalev (Ring/TBRB #2 - 175)

Lomachenko

Roman Martinez (Ring #5/TBRB #6 - 130)
Jason Sosa (Ring #10/TBRB #8 - 130)

Guillermo Rigondeaux (Ring #1/TBRB Champion - 122)

Jorge Linares (Ring Champion/TBRB #1 - 135),

Jose Pedraza (Ring/TBRB #3 - 135)

Anthony Crolla (Ring #4/TBRB #7 - 135)

Luke Campbell (Ring #2/TBRB #7 - 135)

You left out Kessler.

[Nay_Sayer]

Well, Ward came in to most of his biggest fights as the underdog, despite his Olympic pedigree.
By contrast, Loma had the red carpet rolled out for him by ESPN and was declared an ATG by the so called experts (many of whom.work for ESPN) before he even had 10 fights.

Ward was never supposed to last 12 rounds with Kessler, where as Loma has been considered the clear favorite in just about every fight.

Ward was supposed to fold the first time he tasted power from.a true light heavy like Sergey Kovalev, where as Loma was given every excuse in the book for getting beat up by a lesser fighter in Solido.

Sure, Loma may have a few more plaques and awards to hang up in his garage, but I believe Ward beat the better opponents, in bigger, tougher fights, and did it all with the media short changing him the whole time (kinda like Trump), where as Loma has basically had the media working for him, trumpetting how great he is every time he spars a few rounds at the gym.

The Gospel as spoken by Black Jesus..

[GGG Gloveking]

Andre Ward.

[just the facts]

I think lomachenko has the better wins. A lot of people hyping up froch win were calling him a caveman before that fight and ward sc****d past him by a round and from what I saw froch had figured him out in 2nd half of fight. He also lost to Kovalev and may have won the 2nd fight but ultimately he cheated to get the win. Whereas lomachenko has been winning these fights in style, making world class fighters look like bums. I just don't see ward on the same skill level as lomachenko I just don't, I think he retired early cause he knew he lucked out against Kovalev and it was a matter of time before that 0 was gonna go. I think if u put ward in any other country and he wasn't allowed to wrestle, elbow, headbutt and low blow you're looking at someone around fringe world level in most weight classes, I didn't see anything that special apart from the ability to make a fight unwatchable

Another skin pigmentation decision on your part. You having Froch/Ward as a close fight is all that needs to be said.

Again, due to your inability to view anything even remotely related to Andre Ward with even a sliver of objectively, you opinion means less than nothing.

[Madison Boxing]

Another skin pigmentation decision on your part. You having Froch/Ward as a close fight is all that needs to be said.

Again, due to your inability to view anything even remotely related to Andre Ward with even a sliver of objectively, you opinion means less than nothing.

Check the judges scorecards, clown. Or better yet, watch the damn fight.he won by one round.

[Chollo Vista]

You left out Kessler.

Good catch... It's been updated. Kessler was #1

[Nay_Sayer]

Check the judges scorecards, clown. Or better yet, watch the damn fight.he won by one round.

Learn how to score a fight. He won by two rounds on two of the judges scorecards and by eight rounds on the third..

[Chollo Vista]

Well, Ward came in to most of his biggest fights as the underdog, despite his Olympic pedigree.
By contrast, Loma had the red carpet rolled out for him by ESPN and was declared an ATG by the so called experts (many of whom.work for ESPN) before he even had 10 fights.

Ward was never supposed to last 12 rounds with Kessler, where as Loma has been considered the clear favorite in just about every fight.

Ward was supposed to fold the first time he tasted power from.a true light heavy like Sergey Kovalev, where as Loma was given every excuse in the book for getting beat up by a lesser fighter in Solido.

Sure, Loma may have a few more plaques and awards to hang up in his garage, but I believe Ward beat the better opponents, in bigger, tougher fights, and did it all with the media short changing him the whole time (kinda like Trump), where as Loma has basically had the media working for him, trumpetting how great he is every time he spars a few rounds at the gym.

You actually make pretty good points here.

Ward was the underdog against Kessler... Many thought Ward would get KO'D by Kovalev or flat lose in the first fight, myself included considering the long layoff and new weight class

In order for Loma to match the Kovalev wins, he should face Pacquiao at 140

[just the facts]

Check the judges scorecards, clown. Or better yet, watch the damn fight.he won by one round.

If you (a proven racist with an anti American agenda) had a black American (Ward) winning by one round over a Caucasian Brit (Froch) that's a dead giveaway that the fight was really a 9-3 affair. And that would be correct.

[Chollo Vista]

If you (a proven racist with an anti American agenda) had a black American (Ward) winning by one round over a Caucasian Brit (Froch) that's a dead giveaway that the fight was really a 9-3 affair. And that would be correct.