Comments Thread For: Bivol: Beterbiev Most Dangerous Fighter In The World, But Worth The Risk

[Alan Smithee]

Very intriguing matchup. Would Bivol be able to avoid the power for twelve rounds?

[MulaKO]

King Artur should be in EVERYONE'S top 5 at the very least. My fear is he'll never be involved in the megafights that we all want to see i.e vs Bivol, Canelo, even Kovalev - although Kov is probably on the slide. I can't tell you how impressed I was vs the excellent Gvozdyk. What a fighter he is - got everything and he does it in his own style. Just awesome.

I’ve been watching since he came to Canada
He really is special
People think he’s just a bull , but he’s much more than that

Indeed, Coach Ramsay and other insiders (on the Montreal boxing scene) have been saying that Beterbiev has been very much in demand in Russia to attend different events, promos, etc. He's still based off in MTL but has been travelling a bit more to Russia the past few years.

I’m from mtl also
Him and Bivol would be big down there

I agree unifying the division before moving and then if he's capable it would be cool to see how he fairs at cruiserweight

I’d like to see him dominate the division before anything else

Heavyweight in ams is under 91 kg which is under 200 lbs which is cruiserweight division in pros
After Beterbiev (-81kg LHW) and Egor Mekhontsev (-91kg CW) became both European and World champs in 2009 and 2010 new trainer decided to switch them favoring Mekhontsev to win a medal in future Worlds 2011 and Olympics 2012 at LHW, because he knew that Usyk was coming. And because of the favoritism and because Beterbiev was that good that could compete with cruisers Mekhontsev won his bronze in 2011 and gold in 2012 fighting smaller guys and Beterbiev bumped into Usyk

That’s why I’d like for him to unify the light heavyweight division and if he has anything left then a jump to cruiserweight wouldn’t be a big deal for him

[Afi23]

I’ve been watching since he came to Canada

I’m from mtl also
Him and Bivol would be big down there

Who do you think got next out of the province:

Ulysses Jr. seems more interested in playing video games.

Even before the fight vs Murata, I wasn't sold on Butler being a top level prospect?

We'll really see what's up with Marie-Ève Dicaire vs Shields (Dicaire has no chance imo)

I won't even discuss Simon Kean

Still early and I haven't watched him too often but do you think Arslanbek Makhmudov is the goods (at least World level)?

Btw, when I look at Lemieux, I see a 154lbs to be honest (yet he can't make 160). Saunders made him look foolish at 160, imagine what a craftier lanky 168lbs with reach would do!

[BKM-]

It's a fight a lot of people will want to see... Can they make it happen? I'm not convinced fully they'll do it any time soon...

Yes, I mean it's boxing.

If we thought great fights were difficult to make before, wait untill this upcoming economic crisis where promoters are even less willing to lose their cash cows.

[ShoulderRoll]

This fight needs to happen. Let's get some unifications going at 175.

[MulaKO]

Who do you think got next out of the province:

Ulysses Jr. seems more interested in playing video games.

Even before the fight vs Murata, I wasn't sold on Butler being a top level prospect?

We'll really see what's up with Marie-Ève Dicaire vs Shields (Dicaire has no chance imo)

I won't even discuss Simon Kean

Still early and I haven't watched him too often but do you think Arslanbek Makhmudov is the goods (at least World level)?

Btw, when I look at Lemieux, I see a 154lbs to be honest (yet he can't make 160). Saunders made him look foolish at 160, imagine what a craftier lanky 168lbs with reach would do!

Imo , boxing has gone to chits over here
At least when Interbox was around , it was all about growing talent at home , although they were all not from here lol
I really thought that Ulysses would mature once he got to the big stage but he just seems uninterested
Not sure why either
Butler is straight out no good
He's got no power and is more worried about maintaining his street cred , more than anything else
Kean , I feel the same way you do , there’s no need for anything
Lemieux unfortunately came to that crossroad we all knew he was going into , to big for middleweight and to small for super middleweight
But he was one that needed to get a better trainer ( Ramsay is alright but he ain’t no top notch trainer , he got lucky to be handed already established boxers ) Ramsay believed the hype about Lemieux’s power and figured that would get him out of anything
He was never taught any defence or some basic skill and he’s one guy I thought really could make it
He actually got pretty far for what he’s got ( Wilder anybody )
Makhmudov is the real deal , but again needs a stern trainer , no yes man
Teach him to move a little , cut the ring move his head and I think he’ll be ok on the big stage , what I’m saying is he’s a little to robotic
Now the good stuff , Dicaire , I chit you not , she’s got a very good chance of beating Shields
She’s a tough girl , a southpaw , she hits pretty hard enough to gain respect
She needs to fight like a southpaw and move , get in get out
The only thing that worries me is if she’ll melt on the big stage , will she get caught like a deer in the headlights
But I would suggest you put a couple of bucks on this one , great odds and like I said she’s got a very good chance

[MulaKO]

It would make sense for them to have it in Russia. And I am sure it would be a huge fight there. And lots of money involved.

The only drawback for people in the other side of the Atlantic, is the difference in time between Moscow/St. Petersburg and US/Canada.

Yeah I hear you
Listen they had the Yarde fight and it was ok
But if they want some of the big bucks from the ppv , they’d have to have them fight overnight which used to be something they’ve done before
Although pretty sure for them to get the fight , the oligarchs have that kind of dough to even make the fight at an awkward time here in North America and make up for it
I guess we’ll have to wait and see

[miamike]

I would love to see Bivol against Beterbiev when things go back to normal. Do not want to see either champ starve down to super middleweight for a Canelo payday.

[Afi23]

Imo , boxing has gone to chits over here
At least when Interbox was around , it was all about growing talent at home , although they were all not from here lol
I really thought that Ulysses would mature once he got to the big stage but he just seems uninterested
Not sure why either
Butler is straight out no good
He's got no power and is more worried about maintaining his street cred , more than anything else
Kean , I feel the same way you do , there’s no need for anything
Lemieux unfortunately came to that crossroad we all knew he was going into , to big for middleweight and to small for super middleweight
But he was one that needed to get a better trainer ( Ramsay is alright but he ain’t no top notch trainer , he got lucky to be handed already established boxers ) Ramsay believed the hype about Lemieux’s power and figured that would get him out of anything
He was never taught any defence or some basic skill and he’s one guy I thought really could make it
He actually got pretty far for what he’s got ( Wilder anybody )
Makhmudov is the real deal , but again needs a stern trainer , no yes man
Teach him to move a little , cut the ring move his head and I think he’ll be ok on the big stage , what I’m saying is he’s a little to robotic
Now the good stuff , Dicaire , I chit you not , she’s got a very good chance of beating Shields
She’s a tough girl , a southpaw , she hits pretty hard enough to gain respect
She needs to fight like a southpaw and move , get in get out
The only thing that worries me is if she’ll melt on the big stage , will she get caught like a deer in the headlights
But I would suggest you put a couple of bucks on this one , great odds and like I said she’s got a very good chance

Aight, you got my attention (and caught me a bit by surprise) with your take on Dicaire. I'll have to really pay attention to her now.

I agree with your take on Interbox. Part of me appreciates Estephan and EOTM strategy of throwing their boxers in tough early (sink or swim). But this strategy can backfire real quick if the young boxer ain't the goods. It's one thing to send a young Jean Pascal to the UK vs Froch and another to send young Butler to Japan vs Murata. Though Butler did land enough right hands to convince me that Murata is 'bout to get lit up like a Christmas tree soon enough!

[4truth]

Bivol probably wins every round...every round he doesn't get rocked in.