Comments Thread For: Crawford Believes There is Conspiracy To Use COVID-19 To Create Fear

[BoloShot]

And so we're told.
The Rockefellers created the WHO
so how much of anything attached to them can we really believe ?

Furthermore, have u seen the wet markets in China Town in Los Angeles or in New York ? In case u haven't, trust me when I say they rival the ones in China.

The WHO are in China's pocket in fairness. They've proven that here. We really need to take up concerns about these wet markets. They have to be banned. There are health and safety standards for reasons exactly like the situation we're going through.

[BoloShot]

He was clearly referencing the 2017-2018 flu statistics, which were the ones I mentioned.

The flu killed 61,000 during that year. So far, COVID has killed over 22,000 so far, even with all these extreme measures taking place.

There's no way of saying that the 2017-2018 flu was more deadly than COVID. The numbers tell otherwise, and it's not even close.

Heck, going with what we already know about Trump's personality, no way he'd succumb to mainstream media. He knows what's up with this virus and is addressing the situation how he deems appropriate.

I don't have the specific numbers on flu vaccination, but I know for a fact that most people don't have the yearly vaccine. In and of itself, that suggests that the majority of people don't view it as a serious threat. Even though I did get the vaccine late last year, I do agree that seasonal flu isn't that serious.

Lets take Dr. Fauci's assessment as an example. He stated that COVID mortality rate is far lower (due to people not getting testes and asymptomatic people not even realizing they have it): around 1%. That'd make it ten times more deadly than the flu. If we go with the official numbers, it's 30 times deadlier.

If you were referring specifically to H1N1's outbreak during 2009 (the most recent one), then the death toll is highly speculative. The estimated death toll estimate ranges from 150,000 to 575,000. Lets go with the highest estimate, for argument's sake.

H1N1 worldwide (20 months):
Total infected: 700 million to 1.4 billion
Death toll estimate: 575,000

COVID worldwide (35 months):
Total infected: 1,850,000
Death toll: 114,000

Proportional analysis (H1N1 highest estimate vs COVID):
- Total infected: H1N1 infected 769 times more people than COVID
- Death toll: H1N1 killed 5.05 times more people than COVID

H1N1 did that in 20 months, with minimal security measures in place. COVID has done this in 3.5 months, with the most extreme containment measures mankind has ever implemented.

The only flu pandemic that has been more deadly than COVID happened 102 years ago (10% mortality rate worldwide). Although those figures would be drastically lower due to science's exponential advancement this past century, 1918's still stands as far deadlier than COVID. If something that deadly happened nowadays, you can bet we'd be on an even more severe lock-down, justifiably so (IMO of course).

The number of flu pandemics we had before 1918 devastated the population of humans again and again. You're right that the Spanish flu was the last big one, but even ones we found fixes to quickly enough like the avian and swine flu had killed plenty before we had a vaccine in place. I think this pandemic should teach us not to underestimate any viral foe we have no protection to.

[dazzlertheboxer]

Crawford is the TRUTH!

I always new Crawford was the real deal.

https://londonreal.tv/the-coronavirus-conspiracy-how-covid-19-will-seize-your-rights-destroy-our-economy-david-icke/

[angkag]

He was clearly referencing the 2017-2018 flu statistics, which were the ones I mentioned.

The flu killed 61,000 during that year. So far, COVID has killed over 22,000 so far, even with all these extreme measures taking place.

There's no way of saying that the 2017-2018 flu was more deadly than COVID. The numbers tell otherwise, and it's not even close.

Just to compare with another country, the same models used by the CDC estimated that Spain had about 15,000 flu deaths over a 2 year period between 2017 and 2019, so likely half that in 2017-2018 or maybe more than half given it was stated to be a bad year (so lets say 10,000). Current Covid deaths in Spain is 17,489.

Correct, the CDC estimated 61,000 flu related deaths in the 2017-2018 season, and 22,115 deaths from Covid at time of writing.

Important to recognise that the CDC model tries to incorporate deaths that are not recorded as flu, so the 61,000 (US) and 15,000 (Spain) numbers are far higher than the number of deaths in those years that attributed flu or flu related complications on the death certs.

The Covid stats meantime are likely understated as they relate to those with positive tests, and while there have been wide shortages of testing facilities, many deceased have not been tested for the virus simply because testing hasn't been available (the limited tests have been used for the living), so Covid doesn't appear on the death cert.

As an example of how wide the numbers can vary (using Spain again), the Europe Press in Madrid reported 2017-2018 being the highest year in a decade with 472 flu related deaths, stating normally its about 200pa. So the CDC models really ramp up the estimated numbers by a factor of 15x or 20x, and if any numbers are to be questioned, it would most likely be the ones coming from the CDC models.

[angkag]

The number of flu pandemics we had before 1918 devastated the population of humans again and again. You're right that the Spanish flu was the last big one, but even ones we found fixes to quickly enough like the avian and swine flu had killed plenty before we had a vaccine in place. I think this pandemic should teach us not to underestimate any viral foe we have no protection to.

The Spanish Flu's name is of mild historical interest - at the time the governments of the countries involved in WWI downplayed the virus and its impact as it didn't want to hurt morale coming out of the war. Meantime the media had no restrictions on reporting the impact of the virus in Spain, so it made it look like Spain was the hotspot for the virus while the populations of the UK, US, Germany and France were all fed a more positive picture in their own countries.

Other thing of interest with the Spanish Flu was how different it was from any other types as it killed a disproportionate number of fit healthy people while the old and young had a disproportionately higher recovery rate. The Spanish Flu was deadly as it was the body's own immune reaction that led to death, so those with stronger immune systems had higher mortality than normal.

[champion4ever]

"You've got to protect the ones with body issues like overweight or obesity"

Funny that Bud made this statement when both his wife and daughter are obese. They are part of the risk groups.

Exactly! It's the irony of it all.

[BoloShot]

The Spanish Flu's name is of mild historical interest - at the time the governments of the countries involved in WWI downplayed the virus and its impact as it didn't want to hurt morale coming out of the war. Meantime the media had no restrictions on reporting the impact of the virus in Spain, so it made it look like Spain was the hotspot for the virus while the populations of the UK, US, Germany and France were all fed a more positive picture in their own countries.

Other thing of interest with the Spanish Flu was how different it was from any other types as it killed a disproportionate number of fit healthy people while the old and young had a disproportionately higher recovery rate. The Spanish Flu was deadly as it was the body's own immune reaction that led to death, so those with stronger immune systems had higher mortality than normal.

It was a weird flu, so weird in fact that it's most notable side effect was to cause encephalitis lethargica. Basically a swelling of the brain that caused people to become statuesque. A catatonic state induced by the virus, it ended up affecting millions itself and was considered its own pandemic. Oddly has the same strain as the swine flu of 09/10, H1N1. Mind you the initial vaccine we developed for it in 09/10 caused a weird autoimmune response in some kids where they had their orexin neurons die and become narcoleptic-cataplectic.

[theface07]

Wow. What a horribly ignorant thing for Bud to say. I'm a big fan of him as a boxer but he's obviously not the most well informed or educated individual. Is he a big Trump guy? Does he watch FOX news exclusively? You would think so by his comments.

Let's say he's right and this is a big conspiracy and "the deep state" and/or the powers that be are trying to control people. Why would corrupt, greedy, powerful en****** want to keep business from happening as normal? Why would they want to see their wealth and flow of money dwindle? Why would the super elite (top 5%) want to stop the flow of customers and transactions? That doesn't make any sense.

Bud should know that black people have been PROVEN to be more susceptible to the effects of COVID-19. His obese wife/woman is at an even more increased risk because she is black and obese yet he doesn't seem to care. One of his daughters is also overweight.
I wish the best for Bud and his family but his kids are looking to him for guidance and he is dropping the ball big time.

-Cue contradictory response from NachoMan, Misanthropic NY guy and/or songbird.

[theface07]

It is absolutely being used to cause panic and exercise control over people using fear.

What would be the endgame for "the powers that be" using the virus for control and to induce fear? What do they have to gain? Who is profiting from COVID-19? The elite powers that control the world are not the politicians, they are the big business interests who the politicians work for. Why would they want business and the economy to virtually shut down? Take some time to come up with a reasonable answer to thsoe questions. I'll wait.

[theface07]

I don't blame Crawford for not buying the mainstream media narrative.

It feels like you can't fully trust some of our institutions anymore. Look at the World Health Organization for example.

Does that include the federal government or does Trump get a pass?
He lies on a minutely basis. He is a proven pathological liar who can't not lie. His lack of action and misinformation has caused thousands of deaths in the US. What's your excuse for him?