Comments Thread For: Crawford Believes There is Conspiracy To Use COVID-19 To Create Fear

[b00g13man]

An additional clown to the ignore list...

[fernandtg]

Just to compare with another country, the same models used by the CDC estimated that Spain had about 15,000 flu deaths over a 2 year period between 2017 and 2019, so likely half that in 2017-2018 or maybe more than half given it was stated to be a bad year (so lets say 10,000). Current Covid deaths in Spain is 17,489.

Correct, the CDC estimated 61,000 flu related deaths in the 2017-2018 season, and 22,115 deaths from Covid at time of writing.

Important to recognise that the CDC model tries to incorporate deaths that are not recorded as flu, so the 61,000 (US) and 15,000 (Spain) numbers are far higher than the number of deaths in those years that attributed flu or flu related complications on the death certs.

The Covid stats meantime are likely understated as they relate to those with positive tests, and while there have been wide shortages of testing facilities, many deceased have not been tested for the virus simply because testing hasn't been available (the limited tests have been used for the living), so Covid doesn't appear on the death cert.

As an example of how wide the numbers can vary (using Spain again), the Europe Press in Madrid reported 2017-2018 being the highest year in a decade with 472 flu related deaths, stating normally its about 200pa. So the CDC models really ramp up the estimated numbers by a factor of 15x or 20x, and if any numbers are to be questioned, it would most likely be the ones coming from the CDC models.

Yeah man. This thing is deadly and most people in America are underestimating it. If they hadn't, the US wouldn't lead the world in infections AND deaths. That is why measures had to be taken: not only because of COVID, but also due to dumbasses like Crawford, just pretending that it ain't nothing to worry about. Heck, his freaking family are high risk individuals due to obesity, yet he says that him and his family are acting like any other day?

I like the dude as a boxer, but that shiet is plain negligence. He's putting his own family right in front of death's door.

We've been on quarantine over here since March 23rd. No one is allowed to go out after 7:00PM. No one can be on the streets without their mouth and nose covered. Prepared food can only be sold via delivery, drive-thrus, or carry out. Only essential businesses are allowed to operate. Our official numbers are just under 1,000 infected and 49 deaths. That number is fake news of course, but I'm pretty sure that we don't have over 15,000 infected.

This may not be on the level of the Black Death, but it sure is waaaay more deadly than anything we've experienced since 1918's China virus (had to add a little humor, sorry).

[fernandtg]

well, I just found where 15,000 of those deaths came from since Feb



now we just need to check last years stats for heart-attacks/strokes/etc... and find out how many people REALLY died from corona

So you're source of information is a cherrypicked graph of the CDC of weekly numbers? That data is incomplete; the numbers are not reported instantaneously, they are delayed up to a year (like most official statistics). Once they are fully reported, they are adjusted. This is how they operate, nothing new.

Those 22,000 deaths were people that tested positive for COVID. Are you insinuating that the positive tests are being faked?

Do you know any high risk people that have tested positive? Were you present when they tested positive? Have you treated any of them? Do you know how this disease works; which vital organs it targets?

It'd be awesome if we were allowed to give you doubters a quick little tour through the ICU.

EDIT:

Here's the table with the adjustments made. See how it compares to yours:

[MastaBlasta]

This thread and some of y'all posters .... wow! I had to open the Ignore list. Slip all the crazies in there so I don't waste time talking boxing to irrational lost souls. Wow, that sounds kind hard ... sorry, but dayum.

[EDDIE SPERM]

Crawford is right about there being a conspiracy regarding CV. Don't get me wrong not going to b around people, inhale or shake hands

[aboutfkntime]

So you're source of information is a cherrypicked graph of the CDC of weekly numbers? That data is incomplete; the numbers are not reported instantaneously, they are delayed up to a year (like most official statistics). Once they are fully reported, they are adjusted. This is how they operate, nothing new.

Those 22,000 deaths were people that tested positive for COVID. Are you insinuating that the positive tests are being faked?

Do you know any high risk people that have tested positive? Were you present when they tested positive? Have you treated any of them? Do you know how this disease works; which vital organs it targets?

It'd be awesome if we were allowed to give you doubters a quick little tour through the ICU.

EDIT:

Here's the table with the adjustments made. See how it compares to yours:

what garbage, the graph clearly shows data from March 2020

smarten up, you guys need to stop being so gullible

DOCTOR's are saying they have been instructed to report the numbers inaccurately

stop running silly cover-stories for people who...
1) do not know you even exist
2) would not care if you suddenly did not exist




why do YOU think that pneumonia deaths have PLUMMETED ?

did the US suddenly cure pneumonia, at the exact same time they contracted corona?

[KillaMane26]

This the same guy that resigned with Arum after Manny left

[fernandtg]

what garbage, the graph clearly shows data from March 2020

smarten up, you guys need to stop being so gullible

DOCTOR's are saying they have been instructed to report the numbers inaccurately

stop running silly cover-stories for people who...
1) do not know you even exist
2) would not care if you suddenly did not exist




why do YOU think that pneumonia deaths have PLUMMETED ?

did the US suddenly cure pneumonia, at the exact same time they contracted corona?

Did you just give credibility to a MD who was invited by a PASTOR to talk about science. Best of all, comments are disabled in the video.Talk about being gullible.

Lemme guess, EVERY country in the world (capitalists, socialists, communists) came together and decided to make this up? Trump, the most unpredictable president in recent US history, decided to play along? Laughable.

I just showed you the adjusted numbers. The CDC has released prelims this way since forever, and that won't change in the foreseeable future. Find me a reputable doctor who, after seeing that chart, suggests there's foul play going on. I even posted the adjusted numbers, but the pastor's friend has more credibility than every single scientific institution and every single CDC of every single country. Makes sense bro.

You're all about resorting to fallacies. What if I told you I'm an actual doctor who's busting his arse 6 days a week, speaking from firsthand experience? I don't have a pastor to boost my credibility tho', maybe that's a deal-breaker for you.

EDIT: Here's what 5 second long google search got me. Your two sources so far have been a weekly chart with prelim figures taken out of context and a known (for over a year) pill-pushing fraud. Good job!




EDIT 2: It keeps getting better and better! NO WONDER Mr. Pastor loves her.

[ShoulderRoll]

Did you just give credibility to a MD who was invited by a PASTOR to talk about science. Best of all, comments are disabled in the video.Talk about being gullible.

Lemme guess, EVERY country in the world (capitalists, socialists, communists) came together and decided to make this up? Trump, the most unpredictable president in recent US history, decided to play along? Laughable.

I just showed you the adjusted numbers. The CDC has released prelims this way since forever, and that won't change in the foreseeable future. Find me a reputable doctor who, after seeing that chart, suggests there's foul play going on. I even posted the adjusted numbers, but the pastor's friend has more credibility than every single scientific institution and every single CDC of every single country. Makes sense bro.

You're all about resorting to fallacies. What if I told you I'm an actual doctor who's busting his arse 6 days a week, speaking from firsthand experience? I don't have a pastor to boost my credibility tho', maybe that's a deal-breaker for you.

EDIT: Here's what 5 second long google search got me. Your two sources so far have been a weekly chart with prelim figures taken out of context and a known (for over a year) pill-pushing fraud. Good job!

An MD is not credible enough for you?

Ok. How about a biological engineer with a PhD from MIT?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Great Video

Trump just pulled the WHO's funding