Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson: Muhammad Ali is The Greatest, I Wouldn't Beat Him

[Jthomasaustin]

Tyson's uppercut wouldn't have been as effective against Ali, same difficulty would have been had as Patterson had trying to land it. Ali had a susceptibility to a left hook, we saw that from Henry Cooper (who should have won that fight, fact) and Joe Frazier, and the overhand right (Ken Norton, George Foreman, Earnie Shavers) from a fighter with sufficient reach. Ali lost 5 fights, 3 in old age, and the only fighter who MAY have knocked him out was Sir Cooper (saved by the bell, whether or not Angelo messed with his gloves). But Ali reached deep in almost every single situation where he was down, that's something that we can't say about Tyson. Mike himself is saying that he doesn't think he could, who's anyone else to say that he could when we wouldn't have been doing the work?

[BoloShot]

Well if you're ****** enough to believe that Ali wasn't cutting weight to get to a fighting weight that speaks for itself on how ****** you are. If you think Ali was weighing his fighting weight when not training that's truly comical.

When did I say he walked around at his fighting weight? I'm just saying he never cut water weight to make the scales for a fight. Heavyweights don't cut weight because they don't have to. At his fighting weight, he was basically the same as a rehydrated cruiser. The point stands as it always has.

[BoloShot]

Yes and that's not a cruiserweight. It's also not 200 pounds or under 210 like I said before. It's also only a small portion of his career. So you're still wrong


Rehydrated weights are not the same as weigh in weights. You're also not taking into consideration what Ali weighed before training down to his fighting weight. When he was not training during his exile he was at least 230 pounds in his own words. Check 3:16 of the video. He said his ideal fighting weight was around 210 before his comeback. Not 200.






Your logic is completely ****** here. He wasn't a cruiserweight. You were wrong so deal with it.

If his fighting weight was 210 as he said, then he weighed the same as a rehydrated cruiser in fight night. Do you not understand that very basic and easy to understand statement? A cruiser weighs the same as he does. Tony Bellew weighed that much at heavy, don't see anyone having called him a proper heavyweight though. Everyone just said he's still a cruiser, just didn't shed any pounds to get to the weight for the scales cos he didn't need to.
At this point you know you're wrong but you're just being too obstinate to admit it.

[Bronx2245]

Because tyson wasn’t as good as Frazier. Mike Tyson probably hit harder than Frazier but that’s where it ends. Everything tyson did otherwise, Frazier did it better....including having a stronger mentality to deal with adversity. Frazier was as good in the 15th round as he was in the 1st.

I'll give you the mentality, because Mike was on Coke...HARD! However, I think Mike's skill set was better than Frazier's.

[Bronx2245]

If Buster Douglas did it so could Ali. Tyson doesn't have a single win over an all time great heavyweight. Ali has at least three. Well past prime Holmes doesn't count either. Tyson lost every single time he stepped up to a truly elite heavyweight.

I think Razor Ruddock, Trevor Berbick, and Carl "The Truth" Williams would give Tyson fury problems all day anyday, and Mike did his thing! Mike's biggest enemy was himself!

[EDDIE SPERM]

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