Comments Thread For: Calzaghe: It's Mad, I'm Still Living in Froch's Head After All These Years!

[redmish]

I'm pleased he chose to fight Hopkins. It was my first visit to Las Vegas with my mates and is still the best week of my life.

[tokon]

Some good posts here.
Tbh I didn't care much for calzaghe either as a fighter or of what I observed of him as a person. However he appears to have a much better grasp of retirement, and clearer perspective on his achievements than the salty cry-baby froch is increasingly becoming.
I've always subscribed to "styles make fights" theories and imo peak calzaghe beats peak froch.

[Apollo7]

no, a number 1 mando is not a smaller fish than shot jones.
its not simple at all apart from a simple avoidance of a stiff test, story of calzaghe's life.

whats with the rybacki excuse? froch fought rybacki to replace joe running away. If Joe had taken his stiff mando, Froch and Joe would have fought, there would be no Rybacki. This means that it was Joe that caused the Rybacki fight, the guy you are defending with that point is to blame for your point. You are telling us Joe was in the wrong!

Joe was past it by then. Late 30's, many injuries and motivation waning. He had already proven himself at 168 and was fighting at 175 by then. Jones was the bigger fight.

[DreamFighter]

I'm sure she does. Many others will.

the other post proposed he was a good man. so a good man abuses his wife and had coke binges, IYHO?

[DreamFighter]

Joe was past it by then. Late 30's, many injuries and motivation waning. He had already proven himself at 168 and was fighting at 175 by then. Jones was the bigger fight.

its understandable that he was post prime, I said so myself.

But shot Jones was a joke fight, there is no other way of seeing it, not unless you were some spotty kid in 2050 who uses boxrec.

[PittyPat]

"Chaaaaaaaad Dawson can't draw flies to a dungheap!"

Buncey, you straight-talking legend.

[Boxviewer]

Maybe I thought it said .Thats a big difference from couldn’t.The only thing we know is he said he was basically finished after Kessler fight and still went on to defeat two legends st 175.

Because he knew that the legends were well past their prime when he fought them. Much respect for him for acknowledging this fact.

[Earl-Hickey]

Joe calzaghe would have done a Jeff Lacy job on Carl froch at anytime in his career no matter where Carl froch was.
He would have also jobbed that American Andre ward.
His honesty with matching jones at his peak I think, we would all be in agreement, Jones was untouchable at both middle and super middle.
God rest the great enzo calzaghe.

Ummm no

Jeff Lacy was Jeff Lacy, several levels below Froch.

Froch was a similar level to Mikkel Kessler who had a competitive loss to Calzaghe and it would be the same with Froch

Joe was a great fighter with great skill but he DID waste a decade of his career signed to Frank Warren fighting, "euro level" opposition

Froch on the other hand took the best challenges basically every fight and really maxed his career

Basically Joe was the better boxer, but Froch has more of my respect

[deathofaclown]

This fight was never as plausible as people think..

Joe had cleaned out the division and moved up to fight Hopkins in Vegas when Froch had just been fighting in British title fights in Nottingham. Joe fought his last fight before Froch fought his first world level fight v Pascal, for Joe’s title he vacated.

It’d be like exactly like Usyk v Okolie, that’s about the stage both were at, as in one cleaning out a division and going to the next division and the other just about to move up to world level fights, so their careers never really crossed paths, only in Froch’s mind. Froch was a relatively unknown fighter at the time too, where as Calzaghe was in every p4p list. It has to be remembered this was well before Super 6.

[elfag]

Damn Calzaghe admits he wouldn't have beat a prime Roy Jones but not many would and even less would admit something like that respect in the end he has him on his resume and in a fight he won fair and square no debate.

There were quotes from him before on admitting to ducking prime jones and then pre fight from him admitting that jones was well past it.