I think loads of fighters can beat exposed Wilder now

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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #11
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    nah I don't believe any of that

    Fury can beat Wilder... until they prove otherwise, nobody else
    Wilder can beat Ortiz and bums... Until he proves otherwise, nobody else

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      #12
      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      Yeah other than fighting ortiz or stiverne again I'm not really sure where he goes from here. At this stage I'm genuinely not sure id favour him against helenius or Charles Martin. His resume was awful and they just made up that ortiz was some world class win based on absolutely nothing, there's no evidence for it whatsoever.
      I'm sure we will see Ortiz 3

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        #13
        Ruiz would maul Deontay

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        • nubianpiye
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          #14
          Wilder just isn’t that good he never beat anyone of note and still wouldn’t he ducked everyone who was at that Wlad sparring camp with him because they saw Wlad knock him out. Wilder loses to the majority of the top ten

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            #15
            I don’t see a lot of guys with Fury’s ability and size out there. You want to say Joshua cool. But I don’t see any difference between Ortiz and these other guys.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
              I don’t see a lot of guys with Fury’s ability and size out there. You want to say Joshua cool. But I don’t see any difference between Ortiz and these other guys.
              40 plus years old with high blood pressure.

              Put Ortiz in with anyone live and you'll see, that will never happen though as Ortiz is a protected PBC fabrication

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                #17
                Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
                I belive Fury has opened the floodgates and we are going to see sparrow legs on the canvas a whole lot more times now.

                See in the past Wilder has benefited from two things

                1. Most of his opponents didn't want to be there

                Let's be honest most of them were not real challengers and were just random guys showing up for a half decent payday.

                2. Most of his opponents were scared to death of his right hand

                Up until Fury two all his opponents gave him way too much respect for his right hand, but this was dumb because all it meant was they tried to keep away from it, ironically giving him time and space to land it.



                I think now, he's going to lose most of that, he's going to need to fight opponents who are live after Fury Kos him again, and They aren't going to give him the same respect.

                Say he fights a Daniel Dubois next, Dubois is going to tear straight at him, ok Wilder has a chance to land his right hand but if he doesn't land it before Dubois gets in his face, what then.

                One trick pony has been exposed, every opponent is just going to charge across no man's land and when they make it across wilder will get battered.

                I'm calling it now, Wilders career ends with something like 7-8 KO losses on his record, and by the end of it he will be a David Price like figure, losing to european level guys in fights we all watch because you know it can only end in a KO either way.
                loads? Fury and Joshua...is about it


                Dillian Whyte gets sparked out and is wholly average

                Parker and the rest are decent and nothing special.....loads is a bit much...its really 2 guys if the division, one has beaten him and one can

                Povetkin is old AF.....Pulev is too stationary

                who are these loads of fighters

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                • Monzon99
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                  #18
                  Wilder was a total rigged fraud. Many of the guys he fought in recent years would have beaten him but they were paid off to play the patsy. In a real fight Stiverne, Ortiz would beat this big alabama fraud. But Haymon made deals with each. Parker Povetkin Usyk Joshua Whyte Helenius Chisora would all destroy the big alabama fraud.

                  Fury showed Wilder's skill and talent level are comparable to a golden gloves amateur novice.

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                    #19
                    Until someone besides a 6' 9" 270+ pound Fury does it this whole "blueprint" to beat him is speculation. Fact is no matter how you scratch it up 40 more heavyweight fighters tried various ways and failed. I'm not saying it was the best of the best that did but in todays era Wilder Fury and Joshua are the best of the best in no certain order.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Get em up
                      Until someone besides a 6' 9" 270+ pound Fury does it this whole "blueprint" to beat him is speculation. Fact is no matter how you scratch it up 40 more heavyweight fighters tried various ways and failed. I'm not saying it was the best of the best that did but in todays era Wilder Fury and Joshua are the best of the best in no certain order.
                      Until he fought Fury not one of the fighters on his resume was worth ****.

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