Comments Thread For: Warren: Tyson Fury Glove Allegations Are Pathetic, It's ******!

[SugarRaRobinson]

Baaaahahahahaha you really are dim, aren’t you? One of those checks I point out is by the referee you ninny LOL the same check that was done in both Wilder fights, which includes squeezing the glove to ensure the hand is where it’s supposed to be. A detached thumb can be sneakily done at any point between the gloves being signed and entering the ring. Tearing the tape off, loosening the glove, then loosely re-taping the glove to allow the hand to be dislodged can’t be done at any point. You literally haven’t debunked or logically answered any of the points I’ve raised. Want to embarrass yourself further? I’m waiting

The Ref doesn't check out gloves unless he sees something overtly wrong from the outside. In the hammer fight, the only reason y the ref flagged his glove is because when he went to pull the fighters together for final instruction he felt something was off. Which gives more credence to the theory that maybe his hand wasn't in there correctly like some have suspected.

The commission representative is the one who watches/checks gloves and wraps in the dressing room.
It's completely up to the other team if they want a representative in the other dressing room or not.

Most fighters don't exercise this option for some reason, but Floyd was notorious for always having someone from his camp in the other dressing room. I'm pretty sure Wilder will have someone in there in the 3rd fight.

My personal su****ion is that he only tampers with the left hand glove not the right. The left is the glove that was flapping in the wind for the first fight. And the left hand glove is the one he seems very uncomfortable with Jack Reese touching in this video.

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[SugarRaRobinson]

^^ And this is your opinion. So do u really think I'd listen to some suck up fan girl like you who's clearly bias, over a professional referee who dealt with Fury up close and personal and who's retired with no motive ?


So now in your desperation to defend him. U wanna categorically compartmentalize what "Dirty" is and isn't. Do u realize how ridiculous u sound ?

It's like saying, she's not that dirty, she only has gonorrhea, vs she's a very dirty woman, she has syphilis.

GTFOH with your convoluted logic, and STFU to me from here on out as your clearly too ****** to come up with a viable response.

He’s literally right. Dirty tactics aren’t considered cheating. That’s why there’s the distinction between dirty fighters and cheaters. Like...for instance...that dreaded question you, for some reason, avoid answering at all costs lol are Mayweather, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Andre Ward and Shawn Porter cheaters?[/QUOTE]

My point was that in Fury's case there is NO distinction because he's both, the total package ! Lol

As far as your question is concerned, Bernard had some consistently dirty tactics. As far as Ward goes, barring the Kessler fight, I'd say no. Most of Wards critic's only complain about his clinching, which is a legal technique. Porter I'd say is dirty too.

To say your a dirty fighter I look for consistency, not just one fight.

[SugarRaRobinson]

I’ve never said he isn’t a dirty fighter LOL I’ve said countless times he uses palm strikes. He holds his hand in his opponent’s face to obscure their view then whips the right hand through. He’ll lean and push down on the back of an opponent’s neck. He’s used the odd back hander in fights. And? Does that mean he somehow impossibly and repeatedly dislodged his hand from the glove? No, you total spazbasket lol It’s professional boxing. If you wanna watch a strictly by the book contest, go watch the amateurs. Your twice embarrassingly beaten idol has been just as dirty throughout his career. I’ve asked you this before but you failed to come through...find me a fight that lasts longer than a few rounds where a foul hasn’t been committed. It’s hilarious how you cry about Fury’s dirty tactics, but don’t hold the same sentiments to Mayweather, Roy Jones, Hopkins or Andre Ward LOL I wonder why.

Do u realize how bad palm strikes are ? So bad, that if I slapped u on the side of your head with good force you may lose your hearing completely due to the compacted air violently and suddenly pressing against you ear drum with no where to go. The drum will just explode.

U say things like that so cavalier that it's frightening.

[kiDynamite92]

^^ And this is your opinion. So do u really think I'd listen to some suck up fan girl like you who's clearly bias, over a professional referee who dealt with Fury up close and personal and who's retired with no motive ?


So now in your desperation to defend him. U wanna categorically compartmentalize what "Dirty" is and isn't. Do u realize how ridiculous u sound ?

It's like saying, she's not that dirty, she only has gonorrhea, vs she's a very dirty woman, she has syphilis.

GTFOH with your convoluted logic, and STFU to me from here on out as your clearly too ****** to come up with a viable response.

Nice job trying to quote me moron.

That's not my opinion, that's me following your logic by trying to rely on the opinions of others. It's so pathetic you bringing up Cotton when you refuse to even acknowledge the two referees that were actually part of the fight. Such double standards but anyways, here's a cold hard fact. Fury beat Wilder in a fair fight and that has been recognised by the officiating bodies. Fact they had found no evidence of wrong doing. Fact Wilder was stopped. Fact Tyson Fury won. Everything everyone else has to say is your opinion which doesn't meant shet. You can keep deluding yourself saying Wilder won or Fury cheated but the official records say something completely different and that's all that matters.

Being dirty and being a cheat is totally different. Let's break this down so even a moron like you can understand, being dirty is when the rules are bent eg holding, clinching etc when there is no need for it, being a cheat would be doing something like bribing the officials or using illegal hard wraps like Margaritto did. Get it now or do I need to explain it in more detail so even someone like you can understand?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Nice job trying to quote me moron.

That's not my opinion, that's me following your logic by trying to rely on the opinions of others. It's so pathetic you bringing up Cotton when you refuse to even acknowledge the two referees that were actually part of the fight. Such double standards but anyways, here's a cold hard fact. Fury beat Wilder in a fair fight and that has been recognised by the officiating bodies. Fact they had found no evidence of wrong doing. Fact Wilder was stopped. Fact Tyson Fury won. Everything everyone else has to say is your opinion which doesn't meant shet. You can keep deluding yourself saying Wilder won or Fury cheated but the official records say something completely different and that's all that matters.

Being dirty and being a cheat is totally different. Let's break this down so even a moron like you can understand, being dirty is when the rules are bent eg holding, clinching etc when there is no need for it, being a cheat would be doing something like bribing the officials or using illegal hard wraps like Margaritto did. Get it now or do I need to explain it in more detail so even someone like you can understand?

Ur so dimwitted u can't even come up with your own material. Isn't this verbatim what Squared Circle said ?

Didn't I already address this point by saying there is no distinction for Fury because he's both ?

Are u a real person or a Bot with a bad algorithm ?

[kiDynamite92]

Ur so dimwitted u can't even come up with your own material. Isn't this verbatim what Squared Circle said ?

Didn't I already address this point by saying there is no distinction for Fury because he's both ?

Are u a real person or a Bot with a bad algorithm ?

I don't bother reading what others have wrote but good to see someone else agrees with me.

So there's no distinction for Fury because you said so? Now you're trying to twist what Eddie Cotton actually said to suit your agenda. There is in fact a distinction between a dirty fighter and someone that does something that's illegal and a huge one at that. The fact you can't mentally comprehend this is disturbing. The funny thing is, Eddie Cotton has been the ref in a Fury fight, if he thought he was doing something that was illegal as opposed to fighting dirty, wouldn't he immediately disqualify him? Is he also part of the conspiracy too and all working together to bring down Wilder?

[champion4ever]

You are so right Frank. It's up there with paying a man to lie about wild boar meat for popping dirty for PED abuse and when all else fails then blaming it on mental illness. I agree that all these crazy allegations by Team Fury are both pathetic and ****** and needs to stop. Yeah, Tyson is one lying, dirty, cheating motherfucker!

[Squared.Circle]

The Ref doesn't check out gloves unless he sees something overtly wrong from the outside. In the hammer fight, the only reason y the ref flagged his glove is because when he went to pull the fighters together for final instruction he felt something was off. Which gives more credence to the theory that maybe his hand wasn't in there correctly like some have suspected.

The commission representative is the one who watches/checks gloves and wraps in the dressing room.
It's completely up to the other team if they want a representative in the other dressing room or not.

Most fighters don't exercise this option for some reason, but Floyd was notorious for always having someone from his camp in the other dressing room. I'm pretty sure Wilder will have someone in there in the 3rd fight.

My personal su****ion is that he only tampers with the left hand glove not the right. The left is the glove that was flapping in the wind for the first fight. And the left hand glove is the one he seems very uncomfortable with Jack Reese touching in this video.

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Do you actually even watch boxing? Lol as it clearly shows in the Hammer fight, the referee went to Fury’s corner before the announcements were even made. That’s when the referee checks the gloves. Within 60 seconds of a fighter entering the ring. They give them a squeeze, flip them over and visually check that nothing is untoward...which is when the referee noticed the thumb was detached. Watch the footage, Fury is still stood in his corner right next to big John. They never check the gloves when the fighters meet in the centre of the ring, literally, never. And yes, the commission check the gloves after they pull them out of sealed packaging, hand them to Fury’s team, then check them again after they’ve been laced up, with the sanctioning body present. Both then remain in the dressing room for the duration, then the commission member escorts them from the dressing room to the start of the ring walk. While they’re waiting for their ring walk music, cameras are on them the whole time. And yes, a representative from a team being there is optional, an option which Wilder’s team exercised in both fights. Jay Deas was present for the second fight, I remember seeing him stood there laughing as Fury was joking around.

And that video LOL!!!! Again, some more straw clutching. He’s swaying and moving both arms. Reiss didn’t grab his glove, he grabbed his wrist. Reiss is one of the few, if not only, referees that physically forces both fights to touch gloves. And that’s in every fight he officiates. That video has to be the most pathetic attempt at “proving” there’s an indication of something being wrong LOL

[Squared.Circle]

My point was that in Fury's case there is NO distinction because he's both, the total package ! Lol

As far as your question is concerned, Bernard had some consistently dirty tactics. As far as Ward goes, barring the Kessler fight, I'd say no. Most of Wards critic's only complain about his clinching, which is a legal technique. Porter I'd say is dirty too.

To say your a dirty fighter I look for consistency, not just one fight.

The only thing that Fury can be accused of being a cheat over is the PEDs...which is ridiculously suspect. A guy gives a statement saying one thing, Fury signs a $60m deal and becomes a two time champion then all of a sudden he comes out and says he lied? Yea, ok then lol seeing as you previously liked the comparison with a court of law...as soon as a witness changes their story, they’re no longer a credible witness.

There’s clinching, then there’s holding. Clinching is when the arms are free, holding is the opposite. Holding is something Ward did excessively, which is why Froch moaned about it so much; Ward would tie him up anytime they got close. Holding is actually a foul under the unified rules of boxing...which is what 90% of governing bodies around the world employ in all fights. And so is turning away from your opponent, like Wilder did with that “rabbit punch” that dropped him, just throwing that one out there lol Ward would also intentionally dip his head down when coming in close, same as Porter does. The others I mentioned also employed dirty tactics such as pushing off with the forearm (Mayweather did that almost every single fight), the odd elbow here and there, the occasional shoulder stroke while in a clinch and pushing down on an opponent’s neck. A dirty fighter is one who intentionally commits fouls, any foul. All of the above isn’t me moaning about dirty fighters either, it’s a part of professional boxing.

Fury can indeed be one of the dirtiest fighters in the sport...when he needs to be. If he can box, he’ll box. If he has to slug it out, he’ll slug it out. If he feels dirty tactics are needed, then dirty tactics it shall be. Besides two knockdowns, in rounds which he won (arguably with the second one), he cruised to what should have been an easy points victory in the first go. A robbery with millions of witnesses. So I can’t blame him at all for committing fouls in the rematch.

[Squared.Circle]

Do u realize how bad palm strikes are ? So bad, that if I slapped u on the side of your head with good force you may lose your hearing completely due to the compacted air violently and suddenly pressing against you ear drum with no where to go. The drum will just explode.

U say things like that so cavalier that it's frightening.

Do you realise that a correctly thrown punch has more chance of rupturing an eardrum than a palm strike? If the correct part of the glove lands on the ear then it’s creating a tighter seal than if a laced, uneven, non-uniform part of the glove lands. And deafness is actually very rare from a ruptured eardrum. Some hearing loss quite often occurs, but very rarely deafness. I’m sure you’d probably be able to google that. As I’ve said before (not quite sure if it was in the comment you’re replying to, a previous comment in this thread or one in a totally different thread), a correctly thrown punch with a gloved fist will cause considerably more damage than a palm strike, and indisputably more damage than if a fist was somehow lowered into the wrist area of the glove and hitting with basically the fingers. You punch somebody like that, with or without a glove, multiple times...you’d be lucky to come away with at the very least a bad sprain.