Comments Thread For: Boxing Without Boxing: The Great White Hype

[The D3vil]

The NBA has always been full of 7 foot tall guys who can run without falling over and are good at chucking balls through hoops, because that's all they ever do .. over and over and over again.

Some of them have had a go at boxing, which is an infinitely more demanding and physically punishing sport than basketball, and it never ends well for them.

I'm sure the reverse is true too.

If you put Tyson Fury on a baskeball court he'd get embarrassed.

Hell, Deontay Wilder even was a college basketball player who couldn't make it there, but ended up the heavyweight champion for years.

[Oldskoolg]

Lol! Yea, because fury could be in the nba with a guaranteed $1-200 million contract plus endorsements/fame but he’d rather be beat in the face and body for a living for a fraction. The thing that irks me is the cowardliness of it all. They refuse to admit the truth even to themselves. The girl you’re referring to couldn’t just say ”because he’s white” and just own it. They like to play this game with themselves.

The even funnier part is, the same people who root against black Americans in favor of non black non Americans(Serena and Venus experienced this throughout their careers) are the same folk who feigned outrage of Kaepernick and him kneeling during the anthem lol. All that patriotism BS goes tight out the door when it’s a black American vs a white non American.

You are an awakened conscious soul, sir. I enjoyed reading your post. The great Franz Fannon himself couldn’t have said it better

[kafkod]

I'm sure the reverse is true too.

If you put Tyson Fury on a baskeball court he'd get embarrassed.

Hell, Deontay Wilder even was a college basketball player who couldn't make it there, but ended up the heavyweight champion for years.

It's obviously much easier for a 7 foot tall guy to become a top basketball player than it is for him to become a world champion boxer. How difficult is it to become expert at catching a ball and chucking it through a hoop, ffs?

Fury would be embarrassed on a basketball court?

Depends what you mean by embarrassed. He wouldn't end up unconscious on the floor inside a minute, which is what would happen to any top class basketball player who got in a ring with an elite HW boxer.

[Goldie]

You are an awakened conscious soul, sir. I enjoyed reading your post. The great Franz Fannon himself couldn’t have said it better

Likewise sir. Your posts are refreshing to me as well. We’ve got to hold it down for the truth. Respect.

It's obviously much easier for a 7 foot tall guy to become a top basketball player than it is for him to become a world champion boxer. How difficult is it to become expert at catching a ball and chucking it through a hoop, ffs?

Fury would be embarrassed on a basketball court?

Depends what you mean by embarrassed. He wouldn't end up unconscious on the floor inside a minute, which is what would happen to any top class basketball player who got in a ring with an elite HW boxer.

You're full of it man. You have no understanding of basketball or what it takes to be successful. You don’t understand that there are millions more people vying to get to the nba vs being a pro boxer. The talent pool for basketball is infinitely bigger than the talent pool for boxing. It’s much harder to even reach the nba than to be a champion in boxing.

Y’all know all of this deep down, but y’all are so caught up in race and your other ulterior motives that you end up talking out of both sides of your mouth. When it comes to wilder you have no problems discrediting him as a fighter despite him being a world champion for years. You don’t even respect his reign as a boxing champion. You accuse him of cherry picking fights and feasting on weak competition. Y’all basically categorize wilder as being unskilled as a fighter. Yet, here you are in this thread literally saying that it’s easier to be a top basketball player than to be a boxing champ lol. Just no shame.

Wilder himself was a junior college basketball player who became a heavyweight champ with supposedly “limited skill”. You know good and well that he had no shot of reaching the nba let alone being a top player. Wilder didn’t even take up boxing until he was 20 lol. I think AJ started at like 18. What does that tell you? Do you have common sense? Do you really think a kid could pick up a basketball at 18-20 and go on to become a top nba player? Come on people. Y’all can’t be this racist.

[HarvardBlue]

It's obviously much easier for a 7 foot tall guy to become a top basketball player than it is for him to become a world champion boxer. How difficult is it to become expert at catching a ball and chucking it through a hoop, ffs?

Fury would be embarrassed on a basketball court?

Depends what you mean by embarrassed. He wouldn't end up unconscious on the floor inside a minute, which is what would happen to any top class basketball player who got in a ring with an elite HW boxer.

I was actually agreeing with you until you said it’s easier to play basketball than to box. I’m sure it’s a lot easier to throw a punch than anything you have to do in basketball.

['b']

I remember seeing that in the cinema. Funny movie and very indicative of boxing at that time. The idea of a white heavyweight that was actually good was a novel idea. Fast forward to 2020 and it’s the norm. Not because heavyweights in general are so much better these days, quite the opposite, it’s because heavyweights these days are inferior to those of earlier eras.
Thank both the NFL and the NBA for taking the best big man athletes from boxing. Why go into boxing when one can get a guaranteed college degree and immediately sign contracts worth millions, have a defined season, and make millions more in advertising?
Boxing will never again get the best of the big men from the USA. The heavyweight division will be the domain of european big men....who have no other big money sport.

I gotta call BS. The best fighters from 154-HW are not black, so why not? You mean to tell me all those 154, 160, 168, 175, 200+ lb blacks are in the NBA/NFL? lol.

It's quite simple really if you know world history. What happened in the '90s in regards to communist nations and what affect did that have on boxing?

[BoloShot]

I watched this movie a few days ago oddly. Enjoyed it, good satire on the shadiness of boxing politics.

[Bronx2245]

so promoting algieri as someone who's intelligent is exclusive to white boxers? Yeah, you may want to reflect on that comment. As far as beating provodnikov, yes it was a close fight... That he won. Brandon Rios came off a loss when he faced pac. Jesse vargas beat sadam Ali. Broner had a draw with Jesse vargas. There are multiple examples of race playing a role in boxing and promotors using race to their financial benefit. Pac vs algieri isn't a good example of one though. though.

It's not a promotion angle that's done for MOST boxers, definitely NOT Black and Latino boxers! If you think that's so, then you're most likely not Black or Latino.

September 16, 2011:

Notre Dame's Mike Lee: Boxing's Latest 'Great White Hope'

Notre Dame graduate Mike Lee has been in the boxing news a lot lately. Really, a ton, when you consider that Lee is a novice of six professional fights without a truly decorated amateur background.

He's a Subway spokesman, alongside Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck, and Ryan Howard in new commercials that air constantly during NFL games. He's been promoted heavily by his big-time promoters at Top Rank, arguably the biggest boxing firm in the United States.

And on Friday night, he and Top Rank bring professional boxing to the University of Notre Dame for the first time ever at the Joyce Center. Top Rank will even be streaming the card live on their web site starting at 9 p.m. EDT.

Lee (6-0, 4 KO) is in a six-round fight with a lesser novice named Jacob Stiers (4-1, 2 KO). Stiers, a 32-year-old from Kansas City, lost his pro debut back in 2003, and was out of the boxing game from 2004-2009. The combined records of the four opponents he's beaten? 4 wins, 20 losses, 1 draw.

So why the attention?

Because Mike Lee, as luck would have it, is your new Great White Hope.

It is foolish, naïve to believe that Lee being a handsome, well-spoken, white, 24-year-old boxer with a Notre Dame background isn't the reason he's being pushed so hard. I will note once again that, no, there is nothing particularly special about Mike Lee as a boxing prospect. He's not a blue chipper. He's not one of the best American prospects.

But again: He's a handsome, well-spoken, white, 24-year-old boxer with a Notre Dame background.

It matters. And don't kid yourself into thinking it does not. It's the reason that over the years, many white, American fighters have been given opportunities that they may not have truly deserved in terms of talent or true in-ring potential.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2011/9/16/2428697/mike-lee-boxer-notre-dame-great-white-hope-next-fight

[Bronx2245]

White Americans were at the mayweather mcgregor fight with Ireland flags. You couldn’t have made it up.

LMAO! I'm sure there were many singing for Ricky Hatton too!

[Oldskoolg]

Likewise sir. Your posts are refreshing to me as well. We’ve got to hold it down for the truth. Respect.

You're full of it man. You have no understanding of basketball or what it takes to be successful. You don’t understand that there are millions more people vying to get to the nba vs being a pro boxer. The talent pool for basketball is infinitely bigger than the talent pool for boxing. It’s much harder to even reach the nba than to be a champion in boxing.

Y’all know all of this deep down, but y’all are so caught up in race and your other ulterior motives that you end up talking out of both sides of your mouth. When it comes to wilder you have no problems discrediting him as a fighter despite him being a world champion for years. You don’t even respect his reign as a boxing champion. You accuse him of cherry picking fights and feasting on weak competition. Y’all basically categorize wilder as being unskilled as a fighter. Yet, here you are in this thread literally saying that it’s easier to be a top basketball player than to be a boxing champ lol. Just no shame.

Wilder himself was a junior college basketball player who became a heavyweight champ with supposedly “limited skill”. You know good and well that he had no shot of reaching the nba let alone being a top player. Wilder didn’t even take up boxing until he was 20 lol. I think AJ started at like 18. What does that tell you? Do you have common sense? Do you really think a kid could pick up a basketball at 18-20 and go on to become a top nba player? Come on people. Y’all can’t be this racist.

This is the 4chan era where all these sad little angry incel types self radicalise on the Internet. Their racism multiplied by the day. They are positively OBSESSED with black peoples particularly from the USA even when they themselves are not american, never been to the USA, never will be in the USA....it’s a strange obsessive mindset