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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    Holyfield was not the 1988-1992 prime version.....he lost to those guys pushing 40 bro

    Moorer was a good fighter.....but lets be real....neither bowe and holyfield were the same reflex punch resistance out punch out put wise after their classic first fight...no fighter is the same after a war like that
    he was dropped by bert cooper in the middle of his prime. He lost to moorer when he was champ.

    Moorer was an average to bad champ at best. I don't want to hear anything else.

    And likewise, Klitschko lost to those guys at a certain stage, he got better from it. Like Holyfield did.

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      #72
      Larry Holmes became unified champ by beating very old version of Ali.

      Mike Tyson unified titles by beating Michael Spinks and old version of Holmes before that.

      I don`t see that much better than Joshua and Fury beating old Klitschko.

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        #73
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        I do agree Klitschko would be knocked out by Lewis on most nights. but I was around when lewis was around, and he looked like crap against fighters who were far inferior to both klitschkos on more than one occasion.

        I believe Klitschko could definitely beat Tyson. Tyson had big problems with tall guys with jabs and he was past his prime.

        Tyson's era in the 80s was just as bad as Klitschko's, if not not worse.
        Besides Lennox, who were these tall guys that Tyson had trouble with?

        Wladamir would have to punch and move but I really don't think he would be able to keep that up for long against Mike. His chin wouldn't hold up.

        Lennox does have a tendency to look bad at times but that's just him, when he needs to dig deep he'll turn it on and end it. Wladamir's chin wouldn't hold up against Lewis at all, plus Lewis tends to come out more aggressive against taller fighters.

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          #74
          Originally posted by kiDynamite92
          Besides Lennox, who were these tall guys that Tyson had trouble with?

          Wladamir would have to punch and move but I really don't think he would be able to keep that up for long against Mike. His chin wouldn't hold up.

          Lennox does have a tendency to look bad at times but that's just him, when he needs to dig deep he'll turn it on and end it. Wladamir's chin wouldn't hold up against Lewis at all, plus Lewis tends to come out more aggressive against taller fighters.
          Ruddock, Bonecrusher smith, buster douglas.. Quite a few. hese guys are far inferior to klitschko on every level.

          He didn't look good when he was wrapped up.

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            #75
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            he was dropped by bert cooper in the middle of his prime. He lost to moorer when he was champ.

            Moorer was an average to bad champ at best. I don't want to hear anything else.

            And likewise, Klitschko lost to those guys at a certain stage, he got better from it. Like Holyfield did.
            a bad fighter doesnt win a title at 175 and move up to win big fights at heavyweight...moorer was a good fighter for his era just not a great one.

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              #76
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              a bad fighter doesnt win a title at 175 and move up to win big fights at heavyweight...moorer was a good fighter for his era just not a great one.
              Who did he beat at 175? Literally one of the worst 175 champs of all times, and who did he beat at heavyweight besides nicking a incredibly close decision against a Holyfield with heart issues?

              He was definitely not anything but a fly by night champion, who's most famous for getting KOd by a 45 year old man.

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                #77
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Who did he beat at 175? Literally one of the worst 175 champs of all times, and who did he beat at heavyweight besides nicking a incredibly close decision against a Holyfield with heart issues?

                He was definitely not anything but a fly by night champion, who's most famous for getting KOd by a 45 year old man.
                at lightheavyweight
                leslie stewart was a titlist and a perenniel contender in that era

                ramzi hassan was a multi time title challenger even beat future cruiser champ Uriah Grant

                pre fat as hell frankie swindell lol

                heavyweight he beat frans botha, axel shulz, vassily jirov, james bonecrusher smith etc

                if you dont know who he fought, or watch his fights or his opponents, you saying that are bad really wholes no merit

                an opinion without substance and context truly means very little. the guy was not as terrible a fighter as youre making it out to beat

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Larry Holmes became unified champ by beating very old version of Ali.

                  Mike Tyson unified titles by beating Michael Spinks and old version of Holmes before that.

                  I don`t see.
                  - -OK to be blind on a boxing forum.

                  Blowhard Lar a single beltholder in a 3 belt era. Tyson already unified the 3 Titles before Spinks. Lar had nothing to do with any of this.

                  AJ so far ahead of Lewie by record in their timelines, it becomes a man vs boy comparison.

                  Yer welcome.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    at lightheavyweight
                    leslie stewart was a titlist and a perenniel contender in that era

                    ramzi hassan was a multi time title challenger even beat future cruiser champ Uriah Grant

                    pre fat as hell frankie swindell lol

                    heavyweight he beat frans botha, axel shulz, vassily jirov, james bonecrusher smith etc

                    if you dont know who he fought, or watch his fights or his opponents, you saying that are bad really wholes no merit

                    an opinion without substance and context truly means very little. the guy was not as terrible a fighter as youre making it out to beat
                    I watched most of his whole career so don't even go there.

                    I didn't say he was a terrible fighter, but look at the guys you mentioned ffs. you mentioned bonecrusher smith and axel schultz

                    That says it all really.

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                      #80
                      I can`t imagine Tyson Fury being beaten by a fat version of GGG or Canelo, like Holyfield was. Even at age 45.

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