James Toney

[Bex Bissell]

I think steroid use should be encouraged in boxing. Purely from an entertainment perspective.

[joeytrimble]

people talk about james toney as if hes lived and died by the damn things

what about vargas? this guy CLLLLLEARRRLY buffed up to do damage in the delahoya fight ...watch his fight with trinidad then with delahoya total ****ing scalped muscles totally ****ing ripped ... were as agianst trinidad he was more padded

nobody says **** about vargas ... nobody says **** about mosley or rjj hell i hear more people cry about toneys ban then when botha tested positive in which he recived how long of a ban?

i think its more or less all those people who suck it up every time toney comes within inches of becomeing hw champ and get a huge sigh of relief when something ****** happens like this

so really keep talking **** about toney when hes the champ you'll have all sorts of "he shoulda beens" to talk about

[AllEyesOpen]

No his excuse was that his arm was healing from a serious injury and he admittedly used a steriod cream on it. It was legally prescribed by a medical doctor. This is pretty common place for most people that have serious surgeries, but it becomes taboo for athletes. Steroids such as the ones Toney took are more about faster healing from injuries than building up big muscle mass. And I agree with the earlier post that if we are talking steroids the discussion should be about RJJ and Shane Mosley who used illegal designer steriods having nothing to do with injuries.

I would have to agree with that, he didn't really look all that big against Ruiz & steroids is used medically for more then just getting pumped up, & like Toney said he looked like a bowling ball in that fight.

Regardless of the demise of Balco I'm sure someone else can provide any athlete with designer steroids if they really wanted it, & i'm sure no test would detect it.

[amagnin]

I would have to agree with that, he didn't really look all that big against Ruiz & steroids is used medically for more then just getting pumped up, & like Toney said he looked like a bowling ball in that fight.

Regardless of the demise of Balco I'm sure someone else can provide any athlete with designer steroids if they really wanted it, & i'm sure no test would detect it.

Who do you think uses steroids still in boxing today?

[AllEyesOpen]

I can't say, that's the thing, maybe Wlad, it might run in the family, I heard Vitali did, maybe Mosley, but who knows cause Mosley's always looked muscular, but what i think is that just because they stopped Balco labs doesn't mean that those kind of steroids that's hard if not impossible to detect isn't still out there, & an athlete who wants the edge over the competition I doubt would find it hard to get his hands on it if he really wanted it.

[I-WISH-A-MF-WOULD]

I do steroids (anti-inflammatory & anabolic) & there are ups & downs of course. Using juice gets you jacked & very aggressive but it's a burden on my cardiovascular system. I get winded alot easier doing cardio, hitting the bag & shadow boxing ect,ect. I feel like a fat kid. Most steroids puts on muscle (daaaaa) some can be 8-10lbs of solid muscle & other 20-35lbs. Not good for cutting weight. My anti-inflammatory are ****ing awesome. They make me feel like a 18 year old again. I honestly believe James with all his injuries & the recovery process. He has like 22% body fat & just doesn't look like a anabolic steroid user. Nor does he need them he can fight his ass off. I'll add that I don't fight what so ever so no one needs to flame me for cheating. My use is a personnel choice & I love the juice