Comments Thread For: Hearn: Fury-Joshua Possible if Wilder Takes Step-Aside Deal

[Cool Scant]

AJ could have accepted step aside money from...who? Who offered it? You can’t take something that hasn’t been offered lol Hearn threatened to sue because Ruiz was apparently “in talks” with Wilder and was publicly stating his intentions to go elsewhere and breach the contract, not because they offered step aside money. How can you sue somebody for making an offer? Lol

Why would they offer step aside money to Povetkin when no deal in principle was in place with Wilder (because Finkle wasn’t/had no intention of actually negotiating)? You don’t offer step aside money in the hopes that somebody else will sign a contract instead. You offer it when you already have a deal in principle with an interested third party.

Firstly, people keep crying about these flat fees...$15m...three times Wilder’s career high purse at that time. People keep crying about these flat fees...$15m...like AJ would have made $50m lol how much do you think he would have made? Between AJ's lack of popularity and Wilder's lack of interest in the US, a Showtime PPV would have done as many, if not less, views as Wilder v Fury 1....which Wilder would have got a cut of, don’t be a wally. After all was said and done AJ probably would have earned around $30m and Wilder around $20m (before Haymon throws a few million in there). Seeing as AJ earns around $30m without Wilder anyway, why would they offer more and lose money? Secondly, Finkle has shown no interest in negotiating. He made no attempts to negotiate on those flat fee offers. He’d send an email back turning the offer down then cry in the media that the offers are an insult. They’re called negotiations for a reason. If they wanted the fight as much as they said, they would negotiate. You know, like Hearn tried to do (but was shut down at every avenue) with that silly $50m trap. Besides the aforementioned “offer” that was partly fronted by Frank Warren on behalf of BT Sport (Warren’s own words), when have Wilder’s team ever attempted to negotiate and send counter offers?

And this isn’t just based on what Hearn says, it’s also based on what Finkle doesn’t say. Seeing as Finkle loves to shoot Hearn down in the media at what little opportunities he can find, if Hearn was talking nonsense, Finkle would have blasted him. Besides the previously mentioned “offer”...when has Finkle ever been in the media spouting off that Hearn turned an offer down?

Lastly, Hearn floated the idea, after Fury catastrophically embarrassed Wilder at the end of February, of step aside money being offered to Wilder. That does not mean Hearn would offer it, Arum/Warren would be the ones to offer it. The only reason Hearn has brought this back up is because Fury himself has said that he wants Wilder to accept step aside money so he can fight AJ for undisputed.

Anybody that possesses a logical thought process and isn’t blinded by fandom can figure out who’s been avoiding who.

This is Finkels version of event concerning the first wilder v Joshua negotiations https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-shelly-finkel
It sound more believable than what you and Hearn are saying but I’m pretty sure you have you mind made up concerning those events. If Hearn was threatening to sue Ruiz would he have entertained step aside money? If it’s really about undisputed and Ruiz supposedly having talks with wilder why threaten to sue? My point is Hearn AJ and his fans didn’t care about undisputed when it didn’t involve Joshua so why should wilder? If Hearn has intentions of making the fight he would’ve offered Povetkin the step aside money and if the fight didn’t materialize then he could’ve went back to Povetkin. Wilder did the same when he offered Stiverne step aside money Ortiz tested positive then Wilder v Stiverne II took place instead.
You claim the $15M flat fee offer was great because wilder was getting 3 times his highest payday. Well Martin got 34.4 times his highest payday (47% split) and Parker got 37% split. Why is it that Parker got a split but Hearn and AJ offered wilder a flat fee equivalent to 15% max (At the time it was estimated to be a $100M fight based on the legit $50M counter offer that team wilder sent Hearn. You call it a trap to save face but boxing insiders ie Dan RAFEAL said the offer was very real. Dillian Whyte told Hearn to his face the offer was legit) Easy answer AJ and Hearn DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT. Why would hearn tell wilder fight Whyte first in order to get a shot at AJ? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT. Since when does a champion have to fight a bum to get a shot at another champion? If undisputed was a priority why use Whyte as a roadblock? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.
Why would Barry Hearn and AJ both say that they don’t want the wilder fight until 2020 or when AJ is in the best position to win? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.
I have yet to see an official quote from Fury stating that he wants wilder to step aside. It just hearn once again In the media trying to keep his overrated heavyweight relevant.
You claim that warren said that part of the $50M was coming from BT sport (same interview warren also said that Haymon doesn’t need his money and that he wanted to buy the rights for wilder v Joshua. He never said that the money was from BT). If that was a legit reason for AJ to decline the $50M he asked for then it should be impossible for Fury v Joshua to happen seeing as warren would be involved and AJ can’t accept money from him lol just face it buddy AJ DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.

[redmish]

Whyte hasn’t been the mandatory for 900+ days. Whyte hasn’t been the mandatory for 4 months yet.

You know what I mean. He was his mandatory for a long time before the drug issue.

[yankees7448]

You're right but it's unfair, especially when he's earned his shot at a title.

I 100% agree.

[Tutsa]

Dw should only take it if he gets the winner , don’t matter who wins . He should get first crack for all the belts . This is a great way to have all 3 fight each either in the next 2 years .

[Squared.Circle]

This is Finkels version of event concerning the first wilder v Joshua negotiations https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-shelly-finkel
It sound more believable than what you and Hearn are saying but I’m pretty sure you have you mind made up concerning those events. If Hearn was threatening to sue Ruiz would he have entertained step aside money? If it’s really about undisputed and Ruiz supposedly having talks with wilder why threaten to sue? My point is Hearn AJ and his fans didn’t care about undisputed when it didn’t involve Joshua so why should wilder? If Hearn has intentions of making the fight he would’ve offered Povetkin the step aside money and if the fight didn’t materialize then he could’ve went back to Povetkin. Wilder did the same when he offered Stiverne step aside money Ortiz tested positive then Wilder v Stiverne II took place instead.
You claim the $15M flat fee offer was great because wilder was getting 3 times his highest payday. Well Martin got 34.4 times his highest payday (47% split) and Parker got 37% split. Why is it that Parker got a split but Hearn and AJ offered wilder a flat fee equivalent to 15% max (At the time it was estimated to be a $100M fight based on the legit $50M counter offer that team wilder sent Hearn. You call it a trap to save face but boxing insiders ie Dan RAFEAL said the offer was very real. Dillian Whyte told Hearn to his face the offer was legit) Easy answer AJ and Hearn DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT. Why would hearn tell wilder fight Whyte first in order to get a shot at AJ? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT. Since when does a champion have to fight a bum to get a shot at another champion? If undisputed was a priority why use Whyte as a roadblock? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.
Why would Barry Hearn and AJ both say that they don’t want the wilder fight until 2020 or when AJ is in the best position to win? AJ AND HEARN DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.
I have yet to see an official quote from Fury stating that he wants wilder to step aside. It just hearn once again In the media trying to keep his overrated heavyweight relevant.
You claim that warren said that part of the $50M was coming from BT sport (same interview warren also said that Haymon doesn’t need his money and that he wanted to buy the rights for wilder v Joshua. He never said that the money was from BT). If that was a legit reason for AJ to decline the $50M he asked for then it should be impossible for Fury v Joshua to happen seeing as warren would be involved and AJ can’t accept money from him lol just face it buddy AJ DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT.

Finkle says “I offered to send AJ’s lawyers proof of funds and information on where and when the fight would take place”...so, why didn’t he? Lol if he was really willing, then what stopped him from doing so? So he sent an email saying “I’ll send you all the details you want”? An email in which he could have sent all the details the wanted? And that makes sense? That hands credence to the “verbally accept or we withdraw” scenario. And also, on that note, for Finkle to say “we offered to send all the details”...that would require a request for provision of details, yet Finkle claims Hearn never asked or wanted details? So Finkle randomly woke up and offered to send the details? Lol ok then. Again, AJ did not ask for $50m. Hearn was attempting to negotiate, Finkle sees the iFL TV interview where a flippant remark was made, so Finkle runs with it. “Look, look everybody, I made an offer!! Go me”. If, according to Finkle, a reason for the attempts at negotiating were a scam was Hearn apparently having two dates booked for Wembley...where is the other Wembley fight? AJ went on to fight in the US and then Saudi. Where’s this alleged second Wembley date that somehow prevented a contract being signed? He says he refused to sign the contract because of the rematch clause...well...get back to him and push for a two-way rematch clause if you really want the fight, you know, negotiate. He says he couldn’t sign the contract because it had no date or venue. Erm...the contract for Wilder v Fury 1 had, guess what? No date or venue lol that was negotiated and added in at a later date. As is the case with a lot of fight contracts that are signed. Finkle asks for clarification on the date and venue, claiming two things in the same sentence, “he never answers and then he sends back (answers) ‘I’ll supply you the dates’”.... How can Hearn not answer while answering? Lol he says in that interview that he told Hearn he had to send Hearn the contract back by Friday (for Hearn to amend, apparently), yet says, on video the day before the WBA issued their 24 hour deadline, “we’ve received the contract, we’ll get back to Hearn with our comments on Friday (five days after receiving the contract)”...so which one did he do? Say he’s sending the contract back or say he’ll give his comments? They’re his words, not Hearn’s. That is what caused the WBA to give a 24 hour deadline, 12 hours after Finkle’s public comments, after seven weeks of extensions. He claims he never knew the WBA were pressuring Hearn? The whole world knew there was pressure from the WBA, they ordered AJ to enter negotiations with Povetkin in April within 30 days, with the fight to happen by September...in an open letter, of which the details were published in the media. There are more holes in Finkle’s version of events than a fishing net.

Fighting Whyte (which was later changed to any opponent of Wilder’s choosing after they turned it down) in an interim fight came with two reasons; firstly, so AJ could go on to fight Povetkin first and get it out the way, and secondly so Wilder could get some UK air time. Before Fury, casual fans in the UK (not just the US) had no idea who Wilder was. Also, that was one of the initial offers. The contract Finkle had on his table didn’t include an interim fight. Hearn represents both AJ and Whyte. Whyte probably got onto Hearn asking him why he isn’t pushing for Whyte to fight Wilder. So there we have it.

Frank Warren was asked if he had any hand in the $50m either during the Wilder v Fury 1 UK press announcement or immediately afterwards in a one on one interview. He said, with a big grin on his face, that he helped put the deal together and that BT Sport were interested in the fight. Why else would Warren be involved? He’s BT Sport’s frontman. Any boxing on BT Sport goes through Warren, he has exclusive rights. And as you said, the $50m was to buy the rights for the fight (the owner decides which network to approach). If Warren is involved, if Warren says “BT Sport was very interested in that fight”...who do you think would get the UK rights? Come on now. Frank Warren, on behalf of BT Sport, would not be involved with a deal that is aired on Sky Sports lol As for Fury v AJ...it’s a completely different situation; Wilder had no deal with a UK broadcaster...which means there are no contractual conflicts...the fight gets aired on Sky Sports. There’s a contractual conflict between Fury and AJ...which means, here’s that dreaded word that Wilder fangirls avoid, they negotiate. They compromise. More than likely they do what ESPN and Fox did...split it down the middle.

Who were Rafael's sources I wonder? Wilder’s team lol

And while we’re mentioning sources; it’s the Metro that have written an article stating their sources are saying Arum and Warren want to offer Wilder step aside money. AJ has no trouble staying relevant, he’s the unified heavyweight champion. Wilder, on the other hand, is a former champion who got absolutely steamrolled in a completely one sided fight from start to finish, after already being badly exposed by Fury in the first go and two fights with Ortiz. Sorry to say, but it’s Wilder who needs to be concerned about staying relevant lol

And what’s the excuse for turning down the $120m? “They included an extra fight with Breazeale”...who Wilder fought anyway, for less money. “They were trying to tie Wilder down to DAZN”...for three fights? A guy that has no network obligations? Try again please. If you want to refer to Finkle and his “several issues”...you’ll only find one; “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ would earn”...BAHA. And that’s a reasonable excuse to turn down more money than he will literally ever earn in one fight? Ok then. One of Finkle’s comments regarding the turning down of the $120m is very telling; he was asked about Hearn’s initial comments, in early 2018, about Wilder not being worth the millions, but now DAZN are offering a staggering amount...Finkle’s comment? “We must be doing something right”...Yea...intentionally stalling in hopes that AJ would (permanently) lose his titles and Wilder can fight somebody that they aren’t scared of. Shot themselves in the foot there though, haven’t they? Fury dominates Wilder for a third time to see Wilder going back to fighting “contenders” and struggling to make $1.5m per fight lol Wilder fangirls say AJ should have taken the $50m because he’ll never earn that any other way. Sorry chaps, he earned upwards of £50m for the Ruiz fight, and will easily make £20m with no belts while fighting guys that have no belts lol

Unlike you Wildette’s, I don’t take Hearn’s (Finkle’s for you lot) word as law. I look at what Finkle says too. When one guy sticks to the same beat (Hearn), and the other guy constantly contradicts himself and is actually proven by his own words to have lied (Finkle)...it’s easy to make a logical judgement.

Lastly, whatever happened to those emails Finkle said he was going to release to prove Hearn was a liar? Lol he’s a funny guy so he is.

[Adamsc151]

Wilder won't take step aside money, he wouldn't take over £100 million to do the Breazeale fight and 2 Joshua fights with DAZN.
If we are to have an undisputed champ before at least 1 of Fury, Joshua or Wilder retires they'll have to do away with rematch clauses and multi-fight deals

[Cool Scant]

You know what I mean. He was his mandatory for a long time before the drug issue.

Whyte became the mandatory when he beat Rivas in a WBC ordered final eliminator. So going off of the Rivas fight Whyte hasn’t been the mandatory for 300 days yet. Also his mandatory position was suspended and then reinstated Dec 1. Therefore he really hasn’t been the mandatory for a long time.

[Cool Scant]

Finkle says “I offered to send AJ’s lawyers proof of funds and information on where and when the fight would take place”...so, why didn’t he? Lol if he was really willing, then what stopped him from doing so? So he sent an email saying “I’ll send you all the details you want”? An email in which he could have sent all the details the wanted? And that makes sense? That hands credence to the “verbally accept or we withdraw” scenario. And also, on that note, for Finkle to say “we offered to send all the details”...that would require a request for provision of details, yet Finkle claims Hearn never asked or wanted details? So Finkle randomly woke up and offered to send the details? Lol ok then. Again, AJ did not ask for $50m. Hearn was attempting to negotiate, Finkle sees the iFL TV interview where a flippant remark was made, so Finkle runs with it. “Look, look everybody, I made an offer!! Go me”. If, according to Finkle, a reason for the attempts at negotiating were a scam was Hearn apparently having two dates booked for Wembley...where is the other Wembley fight? AJ went on to fight in the US and then Saudi. Where’s this alleged second Wembley date that somehow prevented a contract being signed? He says he refused to sign the contract because of the rematch clause...well...get back to him and push for a two-way rematch clause if you really want the fight, you know, negotiate. He says he couldn’t sign the contract because it had no date or venue. Erm...the contract for Wilder v Fury 1 had, guess what? No date or venue lol that was negotiated and added in at a later date. As is the case with a lot of fight contracts that are signed. Finkle asks for clarification on the date and venue, claiming two things in the same sentence, “he never answers and then he sends back (answers) ‘I’ll supply you the dates’”.... How can Hearn not answer while answering? Lol he says in that interview that he told Hearn he had to send Hearn the contract back by Friday (for Hearn to amend, apparently), yet says, on video the day before the WBA issued their 24 hour deadline, “we’ve received the contract, we’ll get back to Hearn with our comments on Friday (five days after receiving the contract)”...so which one did he do? Say he’s sending the contract back or say he’ll give his comments? They’re his words, not Hearn’s. That is what caused the WBA to give a 24 hour deadline, 12 hours after Finkle’s public comments, after seven weeks of extensions. He claims he never knew the WBA were pressuring Hearn? The whole world knew there was pressure from the WBA, they ordered AJ to enter negotiations with Povetkin in April within 30 days, with the fight to happen by September...in an open letter, of which the details were published in the media. There are more holes in Finkle’s version of events than a fishing net.

Fighting Whyte (which was later changed to any opponent of Wilder’s choosing after they turned it down) in an interim fight came with two reasons; firstly, so AJ could go on to fight Povetkin first and get it out the way, and secondly so Wilder could get some UK air time. Before Fury, casual fans in the UK (not just the US) had no idea who Wilder was. Also, that was one of the initial offers. The contract Finkle had on his table didn’t include an interim fight. Hearn represents both AJ and Whyte. Whyte probably got onto Hearn asking him why he isn’t pushing for Whyte to fight Wilder. So there we have it.

Frank Warren was asked if he had any hand in the $50m either during the Wilder v Fury 1 UK press announcement or immediately afterwards in a one on one interview. He said, with a big grin on his face, that he helped put the deal together and that BT Sport were interested in the fight. Why else would Warren be involved? He’s BT Sport’s frontman. Any boxing on BT Sport goes through Warren, he has exclusive rights. And as you said, the $50m was to buy the rights for the fight (the owner decides which network to approach). If Warren is involved, if Warren says “BT Sport was very interested in that fight”...who do you think would get the UK rights? Come on now. Frank Warren, on behalf of BT Sport, would not be involved with a deal that is aired on Sky Sports lol As for Fury v AJ...it’s a completely different situation; Wilder had no deal with a UK broadcaster...which means there are no contractual conflicts...the fight gets aired on Sky Sports. There’s a contractual conflict between Fury and AJ...which means, here’s that dreaded word that Wilder fangirls avoid, they negotiate. They compromise. More than likely they do what ESPN and Fox did...split it down the middle.

Who were Rafael's sources I wonder? Wilder’s team lol

And while we’re mentioning sources; it’s the Metro that have written an article stating their sources are saying Arum and Warren want to offer Wilder step aside money. AJ has no trouble staying relevant, he’s the unified heavyweight champion. Wilder, on the other hand, is a former champion who got absolutely steamrolled in a completely one sided fight from start to finish, after already being badly exposed by Fury in the first go and two fights with Ortiz. Sorry to say, but it’s Wilder who needs to be concerned about staying relevant lol

And what’s the excuse for turning down the $120m? “They included an extra fight with Breazeale”...who Wilder fought anyway, for less money. “They were trying to tie Wilder down to DAZN”...for three fights? A guy that has no network obligations? Try again please. If you want to refer to Finkle and his “several issues”...you’ll only find one; “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ would earn”...BAHA. And that’s a reasonable excuse to turn down more money than he will literally ever earn in one fight? Ok then. One of Finkle’s comments regarding the turning down of the $120m is very telling; he was asked about Hearn’s initial comments, in early 2018, about Wilder not being worth the millions, but now DAZN are offering a staggering amount...Finkle’s comment? “We must be doing something right”...Yea...intentionally stalling in hopes that AJ would (permanently) lose his titles and Wilder can fight somebody that they aren’t scared of. Shot themselves in the foot there though, haven’t they? Fury dominates Wilder for a third time to see Wilder going back to fighting “contenders” and struggling to make $1.5m per fight lol Wilder fangirls say AJ should have taken the $50m because he’ll never earn that any other way. Sorry chaps, he earned upwards of £50m for the Ruiz fight, and will easily make £20m with no belts while fighting guys that have no belts lol

Unlike you Wildette’s, I don’t take Hearn’s (Finkle’s for you lot) word as law. I look at what Finkle says too. When one guy sticks to the same beat (Hearn), and the other guy constantly contradicts himself and is actually proven by his own words to have lied (Finkle)...it’s easy to make a logical judgement.

Lastly, whatever happened to those emails Finkle said he was going to release to prove Hearn was a liar? Lol he’s a funny guy so he is.

I’ll hand it to you, you are a professional at providing misinformation and causing confusion. Finkel provides a timeline of events of the first negotiations and you twist his words and take them out of context to cause confusion. But I’ll answer your questions as best as possible in the order as received.
Why didn’t Finkel send the email? Because Finkel told Hearn once AJ accepts the $50M that he asked for he would receive all the details that he needed. Hearn and AJ never accepted the $50M as proper compensation therefore he did receive any more details than what was sent in the original email ie the fight would be broadcasted on SKY.
As far as AJ and the $50M AJ said if they (Team Wilder) think the fight is worth $100M than give me $50M and I’ll sign tomorrow. Team Wilder gave AJ exactly what he asked for and he still didn’t sign smh.
As far as finkel saying Hearn negotiating was a scam and the two Wembley dates... Finkel was talking specifically about the negotiations for a September fight (2018). AJ and Hearn didnt want to fight wilder in 2018 because more importantly Barry Hearn and AJ both said THAT THEY DIDNT WANT TO FIGHT WILDER UNTIL 2020 IF EVER (what BARRY HEARN said) OR WHEN IM IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION TO WIN (what AJ said). Eddie Hearn also was talking about AJ can get away with a tick over fight (Povetkin) before the wilder fight. I would’ve rather AJ and Hearn be honest and say they didn’t want to fight in2018 rather than insult and defame wilder character in the media and string along the public but I digress.
Two way rematch clause? There was no reason for Finkel to negotiate a two way rematch clause when Hearn agreed to it then sent a contract without one.
Date and venue? The reason why wilder signed a contact for the fury fight without a date or venue is because fury could be trusted and unlike AJ fury and the owner of BT wasn’t on record saying that they didn’t want to fight wilder until 2020. Meanwhile it’s not ironic that Hearn sends a contract without a date or venue and AJ and Barry Hearn are on record saying they don’t want the wilder fight until 2020.
The WBAs 24 hour deadline: this is one of your professional twist up jobs lol meant to cause confusion!! Hearn never told Finkel that he had to return the contract in 24 hours or they were gonna call the Povetkin mandatory. If Hearn would’ve told Finkel that Hearn would’ve got the contract back ASAP. Why would the WBA Interrupt in the middle of negotiations for an undisputed fight? I wouldn’t be surprised if Hearn told Mendoza to call the Povetkin mandatory.
Whyte? If Hearn wanted wilder to fight Whyte so AJ could fight Povetkin then Hearn and AJ never had intentions of fighting wilder and were just using Whyte as a pawn and roadblock to protect AJ. Again AJ should’ve been honest and said he didn’t want to fight wilder.
Warrens involvement: Warren was involved for valuation purposes. The $50M offer Hearn received stated that the fight would be on SKY sports.

Who was the Metros source saying Fury and Warren want Wilder to take step aside money: Eddie Hearn lol

AJ is having issues staying relevant. Wilder got beat but the boxing community is taking about wilder more than AJ. Nobody cares about another bum Pulev fight. That’s why hearn is constantly talking about AJ fighting Fury and wilder taking step aside money because that Pulev fight is garbage.
As far as the $120M DAZN deal (really $100M Hearn debunked $120M on fight hype a while ago) Skipper refused to let wilder know the split. If you think that’s acceptable then tell Hearn and AJ offer that same deal and don’t let Fury know what AJ is making ie the split and I guarantee Arum will tell Hearn to go F*** himself. Also Skipper apologized and took responsibility for being the reason that DAZN deal with wilder didn’t go through. Skipper also said when wilder left the meeting he knew they (DAZN) messed up. But of course AJ fan boys such as yourself want wilder to take a DAZN offer where they refuse to provide all of the details while crying about Team Wilder $50M offer to AJ where you all claim That details weren’t provided. Your hypocrisy has no shame lol
At the end of the day al of this dialogue isn’t necessary. AJ AND BARRY HEARN SAID THEY DIDNT WANT THE WILDER FIGHT UNTIL 2020 IF EVER OR WHEN AJS IN THE BEST POSITION TO WIN. Only AJ fan boys such as yourself wont take AJ at his word. He literally said he didn’t want the wilder fight lol

[Roberto Vasquez]

So Whyte finally gets his shot at Wilder but theres no title after 900+ days as his mandatory? Why would Whyte take that?

Wilder can just sit it out or fight Ortiz again. But he should still fight the winner of Joshua/Fury.

[Squared.Circle]

I’ll hand it to you, you are a professional at providing misinformation and causing confusion. Finkel provides a timeline of events of the first negotiations and you twist his words and take them out of context to cause confusion. But I’ll answer your questions as best as possible in the order as received.
Why didn’t Finkel send the email? Because Finkel told Hearn once AJ accepts the $50M that he asked for he would receive all the details that he needed. Hearn and AJ never accepted the $50M as proper compensation therefore he did receive any more details than what was sent in the original email ie the fight would be broadcasted on SKY.
As far as AJ and the $50M AJ said if they (Team Wilder) think the fight is worth $100M than give me $50M and I’ll sign tomorrow. Team Wilder gave AJ exactly what he asked for and he still didn’t sign smh.
As far as finkel saying Hearn negotiating was a scam and the two Wembley dates... Finkel was talking specifically about the negotiations for a September fight (2018). AJ and Hearn didnt want to fight wilder in 2018 because more importantly Barry Hearn and AJ both said THAT THEY DIDNT WANT TO FIGHT WILDER UNTIL 2020 IF EVER (what BARRY HEARN said) OR WHEN IM IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION TO WIN (what AJ said). Eddie Hearn also was talking about AJ can get away with a tick over fight (Povetkin) before the wilder fight. I would’ve rather AJ and Hearn be honest and say they didn’t want to fight in2018 rather than insult and defame wilder character in the media and string along the public but I digress.
Two way rematch clause? There was no reason for Finkel to negotiate a two way rematch clause when Hearn agreed to it then sent a contract without one.
Date and venue? The reason why wilder signed a contact for the fury fight without a date or venue is because fury could be trusted and unlike AJ fury and the owner of BT wasn’t on record saying that they didn’t want to fight wilder until 2020. Meanwhile it’s not ironic that Hearn sends a contract without a date or venue and AJ and Barry Hearn are on record saying they don’t want the wilder fight until 2020.
The WBAs 24 hour deadline: this is one of your professional twist up jobs lol meant to cause confusion!! Hearn never told Finkel that he had to return the contract in 24 hours or they were gonna call the Povetkin mandatory. If Hearn would’ve told Finkel that Hearn would’ve got the contract back ASAP. Why would the WBA Interrupt in the middle of negotiations for an undisputed fight? I wouldn’t be surprised if Hearn told Mendoza to call the Povetkin mandatory.
Whyte? If Hearn wanted wilder to fight Whyte so AJ could fight Povetkin then Hearn and AJ never had intentions of fighting wilder and were just using Whyte as a pawn and roadblock to protect AJ. Again AJ should’ve been honest and said he didn’t want to fight wilder.
Warrens involvement: Warren was involved for valuation purposes. The $50M offer Hearn received stated that the fight would be on SKY sports.

Who was the Metros source saying Fury and Warren want Wilder to take step aside money: Eddie Hearn lol

AJ is having issues staying relevant. Wilder got beat but the boxing community is taking about wilder more than AJ. Nobody cares about another bum Pulev fight. That’s why hearn is constantly talking about AJ fighting Fury and wilder taking step aside money because that Pulev fight is garbage.
As far as the $120M DAZN deal (really $100M Hearn debunked $120M on fight hype a while ago) Skipper refused to let wilder know the split. If you think that’s acceptable then tell Hearn and AJ offer that same deal and don’t let Fury know what AJ is making ie the split and I guarantee Arum will tell Hearn to go F*** himself. Also Skipper apologized and took responsibility for being the reason that DAZN deal with wilder didn’t go through. Skipper also said when wilder left the meeting he knew they (DAZN) messed up. But of course AJ fan boys such as yourself want wilder to take a DAZN offer where they refuse to provide all of the details while crying about Team Wilder $50M offer to AJ where you all claim That details weren’t provided. Your hypocrisy has no shame lol
At the end of the day al of this dialogue isn’t necessary. AJ AND BARRY HEARN SAID THEY DIDNT WANT THE WILDER FIGHT UNTIL 2020 IF EVER OR WHEN AJS IN THE BEST POSITION TO WIN. Only AJ fan boys such as yourself wont take AJ at his word. He literally said he didn’t want the wilder fight lol

And I’ll hand it to you, you’re not like all the other Wildettes that make a statement then put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and scream “I didn’t read anything you said Ner Ner Ner Ner Nerrrrr”. You at least try and give your thoughts, however wrong they may be lol But anyway...there you go...”Because Finkel told Hearn once AJ accepts the $50M that he asked for he would receive all the details that he needed”...as per Hearn, “verbally accept or we withdraw the offer” lol since when is a serious deal negotiated by offering a price with no other details, where the only way you can receive the terms is by verbally accepting? That is not, under any circumstances, how deals are negotiated. Contact is made (that part was already done), then terms are sent, those terms are either agreed to or negotiated, once an agreement is made, a contract is sent...as Hearn did (or at least tried to do) with Finkle, who then requested a contract. If the fight was to be aired on Sky Sports, why would Frank Warren have any involvement in the deal? What evaluation advice could Warren provide in regards to a network that he’s never aired a fight in with a fighter that he’s never worked with? Why would he say that BT Sport were “very interested in the fight”? If Warren did not/would not facilitate any of the negotiations, could not provide any realistic evaluation advice for a network and fighter that he’s never worked with, why was he involved? To facilitate BT Sport’s interest. Before early 2019, the only person that mentioned anything about the fight not happening until 2020 was Barry. Not Eddie, not AJ, not anybody from Sky Sports, but Barry. That was his opinion on the state of the “negotiations” and from a business standpoint. Said standpoint being “profiles need to be built to maximise profit”. Barry is not involved with Matchroom Boxing. He holds no position. He has no part in negotiations (except when Eddie asked him to go to New York and meet with Finkle, to which Finkle refused), Matchmaking or events. The only event he’s been involved with in at least the last decade was one last year, and that extended to a grand total of being at the press conference because Eddie or his underling weren’t in country lol yes, Hearn spoke about a “tick over” fight with Povetkin (which wasn’t a tick over, it was a mandatory), which is where the Whyte situation came into play. How could the Whyte situation be a roadblock when the final offer didn’t involve Whyte? They said no to Whyte, it was taken off the table. Hearn replaced Whyte with any opponent of Wilder’s choosing, they said no, it was taken off the table. There’s no roadblock. Hearn and Finkle probably did indeed discuss rematch clause, in which Finkle may or may not have emphasised it be a two way clause (probably so. And good ol’ Eddie more than likely worded it in such a way that made Finkle think it was there, when in actual fact it wasn’t. They don’t call him Fast Eddie because he’s quick in a 100m dash lol), and Hearn went ahead and only includes a one way clause. But again, that’s when you immediately reply and push for the two way clause, not say “we’ll get back with our comments in five days time”. What Finkle specifically said about the two Wembley dates, was that Hearn had them booked...for his next two fights. Not that they were in the contract for Wilder. How could he book a date for a venue when there was no idea when a potential rematch would happen? I dunno how it works in America, but over here, if you book a venue and fail to come through, you still have to pay what was initially agreed, and then some for compensation. Finkle made his comments in the media about waiting five days to get back to Hearn with comments, not “I will immediately send the contract back with my comments”. If Finkle already made his intentions clear, and has already been taking several days each time to reply to Hearn, and the WBA finally get fed up and give a 24 hour deadline...obviously Hearn is gonna go to the team that he knows will make a deal within those 24 hours, and not the team that have been waiting several days to reply each time.

I highly doubt Hearn was the Metro’s source lol they’re a reputable news outlet. Why would they take the word of a guy that has no involvement?

As for relevance, the boxing world is talking about Wilder because he lost and if he’s really got what it takes to get his belt back or if he’s in the death throws of his career. And AJ’s name is always eventually mentioned. Since Wilder lost, those same people have been salivating at a potential undisputed fight finally happening between AJ and now Fury, Wilder is fully excluded. Hearn is talking about AJ v Fury just as much as he was talking about AJ v Wilder, because they want that fight lol

Skipper said, regarding his “messing up” the DAZN offer; “I made the mistake of not building a relationship with Wilder’s handlers beforehand”...he’s never mentioned anything about a “split”. That’s Skipper basically saying “we still want to facilitate the deal, I’ll say it was all on me, when you find your nuts you can come back to the table”. The only person who mentioned what AJ was getting being the reason was Finkle, among his “many issues” of which only that has ever been mentioned lol if they offer Wilder $50m...what do you think AJ would be getting? Lol not much more than $50m. It’s a moot point trying to argue “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ would make”. And it’s not even comparable to the $50m offer. Wilder knew what he’d make, he knew the network, he knew the dates, the venues, details regarding sponsors. All AJ knew was the price tag, as we’ve established, he had to verbally agree for the rest of the details lol As for a Fury fight, I’m honestly not sure how that would work out...but I think it’s reasonable to assume there’s a high possibility it won’t be on DAZN. Unlike Wilder, Fury is contracted to a network, Wilder was a free agent and as is AJ. Hence no counter offer from a network on Wilder’s behalf. I think ESPN would thereabouts match whatever DAZN would offer and AJ would take it.

The closest AJ or Eddie have ever came to saying he doesn’t want the Wilder fight is them saying they don’t think a deal will be reached in that particular year. The closest Wilder has ever came to saying he doesn’t want the fight is literally saying he’s not going to fight AJ. “I’ll freeze AJ out”!!!!!!!!! Lol

I’m not a hardcore “I’ll die for AJ” kind of fan. I’m a fan, but not that far. I call it how I see it and what I’ve consistently seen is team AJ repeatedly saying they want the fight. Team AJ sending out multiple offers (don’t like them? Fcking negotiate for shlt sake!!). Team AJ being realistic and saying they believe Wilder does actually want to fight. Team AJ saying they’ll work with team Wilder any day of the week. I’ve also seen team Wilder send an offer that had a requirement of a verbal acceptance before details are revealed. Team Wilder saying they refuse to work with team AJ. Team Wilder refusing phone calls and meetings. Team Wilder literally saying they are not going to fight AJ by freezing him out. Team Wilder saying AJ himself does not want the fight. When you add all that to the fact that one of these guys has stepped up more times than the other to test himself, in almost literally half the time and half the fights...I know which way I’m leaning.