Comments Thread For: Froch: Joshua Beating Wilder Will Make Fury Fight Even Bigger

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It seems like you have nothing upstairs. How could AJ have fought Wlad while he just an up and comer those days? Wilder was already WBC champion but dared not fight any unification bout

you must have tumble weeds upstairs. If AJ fought the bum Charles Martin in his 16th fight then he could’ve fought Klitschko in his 15th fight. Or he could’ve fought Wilder instead of Martin. AJs an opportunist he does fight live bodies until the look vulnerable

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You honestly think they would have signed Wilder to fight Joshua without securing Joshua? AJ was ok with the fight as long as it was held in London. The $50 million Haymon offered stipulated that the fight would be in the U.S.. Wilder didn't take the offer from DAZN, because he didn't want to fight Whyte first, although he tried to make the excuse that it was because Hearn wouldn't reveal how much AJ was getting paid.

Whyte is a bum why do people act like he’s some boogeymen is beyond me. Whyte has turned down the most title opportunities in the history of the division

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Whyte is a bum why do people act like he’s some boogeymen is beyond me. Whyte has turned down the most title opportunities in the history of the division

And yet, Wilder has turned down Whyte. He has clearly fought lesser competition before. There is also the small fact that Dillian was Wilder's mandatory before he lost to Fury.

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Phuck that, if we could see Fury - AJ now then why tha phuck would we want to see AJ-Wilder now? Wilder had his chances and he ducked it all to “Bet on himself” they said. If there is a clear path to the first undisputed fight for years then phuck Wilder, phuck Whyte... Lets see that fight first, it takes precedence over anything or anyone.

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And yet, Wilder has turned down Whyte. He has clearly fought lesser competition before. There is also the small fact that Dillian was Wilder's mandatory before he lost to Fury.

when did wilder turn down Whyte? Wilder told Whyte give me $7M and I’ll fight you as a mandatory and Whyte REFUSED wilder told Hearn that he’d fight Whyte as long as the contract states the winner fights AJ next Hearn REFUSED. Wilder told Whyte beat Ortiz and ill guarantee you a shot Whyte REFUSED the WBC ordered Whyte v Ortiz final Eliminator winner fights wilder for the WBC title Whyte REFUSED TWICE wilder told Whyte sign a 1 fight deal with the PBC to get a shot at the title and Whyte REFUSED!!
Also Whyte lost his mandatory position because he can’t say no to drugs and by the time he was reinstated as the mandatory for a title shot for February 2021 fury fight was already signed and fury was made the mandatory. Add to the fact that Whyte turned down the IBF final eliminator vs Pulev and a shot at AJ for April 13th 2020 and As I stated Whyte has turned down the most title opportunities in the history of the division

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Did you see Joshua as a opportunist for taking on Wlad after Fury had beaten him? You used the word continue, continue to look like an opportunist.

Klitschko was 41 years old coming off a loss to Fury where he was old shot and couldn’t throw a punch and an 18 month layoff without a tuneup. What do you think lol

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Klitschko was 41 years old coming off a loss to Fury where he was old shot and couldn’t throw a punch and an 18 month layoff without a tuneup. What do you think lol

It was Joshua's 18th fight, you say Joshua is vastly overrated and it was his 18th fight and still very green. I think Joshua deserves. Credit for taking that fight, also that fight is the one that really elevated him to super star status in the UK.

Who was Wilder facing after 18 fights? Who was the guy Wilder fought to elevate himself? Why did Wilder duck the Klitschkos?

Would Joshua have got credit from you if he'd taken on Klitchko after 6 or 7 Pro fights? You salty wankers hate the fact your hero Wilder has been crawling like a baby while Joshua scrolled past him and achieved 4 times as much in less than half the time.

I think you know your frustrations. Should lie at the feet of Wilder, Deas, Shirley Winkle and Master Al Haymon. But your need to defend them means you gotta try be salty at the fighters that did go about things in a quicker and BRAVER fashion.

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It was Joshua's 18th fight, you say Joshua is vastly overrated and it was his 18th fight and still very green. I think Joshua deserves. Credit for taking that fight, also that fight is the one that really elevated him to super star status in the UK.

Who was Wilder facing after 18 fights? Who was the guy Wilder fought to elevate himself? Why did Wilder duck the Klitschkos?

Would Joshua have got credit from you if he'd taken on Klitchko after 6 or 7 Pro fights? You salty wankers hate the fact your hero Wilder has been crawling like a baby while Joshua scrolled past him and achieved 4 times as much in less than half the time.

I think you know your frustrations. Should lie at the feet of Wilder, Deas, Shirley Winkle and Master Al Haymon. But your need to defend them means you gotta try be salty at the fighters that did go about things in a quicker and BRAVER fashion.

Joshua deserves credit for the Klitschko fight. But let’s not act like Joshua fights people with positive momentum because he doesn’t. Martin got his belt because his opponent got injured in the third round. Parker got a disputed decision against Ruiz for his belt and looked like doo doo in the two other fights before he fought AJ. Klitschko was old and decrepit lol The one time AJ did fight someone with positive momentum he got beat up KD 4x and quit.
Let’s be real if AJ came up in the heart of the Klitschko era he wouldn’t have fought them in his 16th fight. It’s not being salty it is what it is.
And as far as accomplishments I’d take wilders 10 consecutive title defenses over AJ beating inferior opposition for paper titles.

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You would, even considering that wilders opposition for those 10 defences were of lower standard than who Joshua was facing. Not to mention if Joshua took the Wilder route to his career he would still be fighting blown up Cruiserweights with losing records, not world champions.

But you give them blown up Cruiserweights with losing records the big thumbs up while giving world champions with their paper belts the thumbs down. It really does explain the crazy angles you choose to see the sport from.

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when did wilder turn down Whyte? Wilder told Whyte give me $7M and I’ll fight you as a mandatory and Whyte REFUSED wilder told Hearn that he’d fight Whyte as long as the contract states the winner fights AJ next Hearn REFUSED. Wilder told Whyte beat Ortiz and ill guarantee you a shot Whyte REFUSED the WBC ordered Whyte v Ortiz final Eliminator winner fights wilder for the WBC title Whyte REFUSED TWICE wilder told Whyte sign a 1 fight deal with the PBC to get a shot at the title and Whyte REFUSED!!
Also Whyte lost his mandatory position because he can’t say no to drugs and by the time he was reinstated as the mandatory for a title shot for February 2021 fury fight was already signed and fury was made the mandatory. Add to the fact that Whyte turned down the IBF final eliminator vs Pulev and a shot at AJ for April 13th 2020 and As I stated Whyte has turned down the most title opportunities in the history of the division

I think you have your facts twisted. Whyte was the mandatory to fight for Wilder's belt. It was the WBC who tried to make Whyte fight Ortiz in a final eliminator, when Dillian was already the mandatory and Ortiz had lost against Wilder the first time! This was before the failed drug test.
And Wilder has stated that Whyte is beneath him and not worth fighting. I'll attach one article, but you need to look some of this stuff yourself, as it is well documented.

https://www.boxingscene.com/whyte-im-getting-screwed-over-wilder-wanna-fight-me--144881