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  • champion4ever
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    #41
    He does. However, he has to come in very focused and determined this time and not underestimate Fury or take him lightly. Not only does he need to show up but also to show up and win because Fury isn't going to give in or let up. He is going to have to earn that W.

    If he makes the necessary changes and adjustments to his fight regiment and training he should do just fine. However, he is going to have to really bite down and dig deep this time if he really wants his title back.

    It all begins and ends with Deontay Wilder. If he really wants it then he'll get it. He must be willing to make the necessary sacrifices and commitments in order to attain his goals.

    Also, I don't buy into all this bullshit that Fury is the better fighter. However, I do believe that Fury was the better prepared and the hungrier of the two fighters. He proved it by switching trainers.

    I know that Wilder could perform a lot better than he did on Feb 22. I've seen him do it before. That fight was just bad choke job on his part. He allowed the moment to get to him and it showed.

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      #42
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      He does. However, he has to come in very focused and determined this time and not underestimate Fury or take him lightly. Not only does he need to show up but also to show up and win because Fury isn't going to give in or let up. He is going to have to earn that W.

      If he makes the necessary changes and adjustments to his fight regiment and training he should do just fine. However, he is going to have to really bite down and dig deep this time if he really wants his title back.

      It all begins and ends with Deontay Wilder. If he really wants it then he'll get it. He must be willing to make the necessary sacrifices and commitments in order to attain his goals.

      Also, I don't buy into all this bullshit that Fury is the better fighter. However, I do believe that Fury was the better prepared and the hungrier of the two fighters. He proved it by switching trainers.

      I know that Wilder could perform a lot better than he did on Feb 22. I've seen him do it before. That fight was just bad choke job on his part. He allowed the moment to get to him and it showed.
      Fury proved he is the better fighter twice. More heart too

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        #43
        Originally posted by archiemoore1
        Just from one look at his girl, its easy to see why Wilder's legs were shot. She's aging him and taking all his natural bama power away. Some of the best fighters have fell victim to sex during camp and before fights. Deontay is arrogant and thinks he can kill anything he hits one time. He thinks he can do what he wants and maintain that power throughout. But now he has learned that isn't the case. So let's see how champ comes back
        I couldn't have agreed with you more. Sometimes a fighter has to come out of their own comfort zone in order to remain focused and determined on winning a bout.

        For years, Wilder has been getting away with breaking all of the taboos of boxing like: Boasting about how he likes to make love before a fight and relaxing around the people he loves and the people he feel the most comfortable around.

        You can't do that while in training and there is a reason for it. It's because it can distract you by making you lose your drive and will to succeed.

        Remember that a hungry dog is always a meaner dog. Wilder must learn to abstain from all the creature comforts of life until he defeats Tyson Fury first. Then he can indulge.

        In any case job well done! Green K sent!

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          #44
          Originally posted by NYG
          Fury proved he is the better fighter twice. More heart too
          You are absolutely right. Fury is the overall better fighter. After all, he is the more fundamentally sound of the two, has boxing in his genes and is the more naturally bigger and stronger of the two as well.

          In any case, I concur that Tyson Fury is a very good fighter and it would have to take a very highly gifted and disciplined man in order to defeat him because he is that damned good.

          If anyone stands a chance against Tyson Fury, then they cannot afford to half ass it in order to achieve it. Either you are all in against him or don't go in at all.

          All I know that a poor work ethic and a lack of discipline won't get the job done against Tyson Fury.

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            #45
            Obviously Wilder has puncher chance but he has to set this properly by doing some boxing till he find the right opening...

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              #46
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              You are absolutely right. Fury is the overall better fighter. After all, he is the more fundamentally sound of the two, has boxing in his genes and is the more naturally bigger and stronger of the two as well.

              In any case, I concur that Tyson Fury is a very good fighter and it would have to take a very highly gifted and disciplined man in order to defeat him because he is that damned good.

              If anyone stands a chance against Tyson Fury, then they cannot afford to half ass it in order to achieve it. Either you are all in against him or don't go in at all.

              All I know that a poor work ethic and a lack of discipline won't get the job done against Tyson Fury.
              I agree and i just don't think Wilder is the guy to do that. Maybe one day we will see Fury lose but if we ever do, i doubt Wilder is the one to beat him.

              To be honest, I don't think Fury loses ever in his career unless he really beats himself. He's in a division where he is the biggest, strongest, and most skilled and with this new style he beat Wilder with, he can be very dangerous if he looks to knock people out instead of moving and dodging.

              I'm looking forward to see how this style works against guys other than Wilder, if he decides to use it. That's the thing about Fury, he can win in different ways. Like Joshua with Ruiz, all the running bs but if Joshua did that to Ruiz in the first fight, He wins and doesn't get stopped but Joshua did show he can also box and move if needed. Not as pretty but still

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                #47
                Originally posted by NYG

                To be honest, I don't think Fury loses ever in his career unless he really beats himself.
                You've just hit the hammer on the nail. Tyson Fury is his own greatest opponent.

                If he comes in overly confident, unmotivated, lackadaisical without the proper training and preparation for a bout while not staying focused on the task at hand, then yes; It is probably the only way he can lose.

                I know that this is a bit off topic but just out of pure curiosity from top to bottom who was the better football team last year; The San Francisco 49ers or the Kansas City Chiefs?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  You've just hit the hammer on the nail. Tyson Fury is his own greatest opponent.

                  If he comes in overly confident, unmotivated, lackadaisical without the proper training and preparation for a bout while not staying focused on the task at hand, then yes; It is probably the only way he can lose.

                  I know that this is a bit off topic but just out of pure curiosity from top to bottom who was the better football team last year; The San Francisco 49ers or the Kansas City Chiefs?
                  That's an opinion though. Chiefs were the more dangerous team with a better QB, offense, and coach. 49ers were more balanced offensively and defensively but weaker at the other position KC was strong at. You aren't trying to say sometimes the better team loses right as if saying Wilder lost but he is still better than Fury?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by NYG
                    That's an opinion though. Chiefs were the more dangerous team with a better QB, offense, and coach. 49ers were more balanced offensively and defensively but weaker at the other position KC was strong at. You aren't trying to say sometimes the better team loses right as if saying Wilder lost but he is still better than Fury?
                    You're right. The 49ers were the better team and they still lost. Yes and no, I was attempting to tie up the loose ends of my original premise that on any given night or in this case Sunday any team or athlete could lose despite being the better team or the more skilled athlete. That was not the case with Wilder and Fury though because Tyson is the better fighter.

                    All I am saying is that it's not impossible for anyone to have an off night. The 49ers should have won that Super Bowl being up 10 points with the ball in their possession with just under seven and a half minutes remaining in the game. However, it came down to the team who wanted it the most.

                    Throughout the history of boxing there are many examples of these when the better fighter doesn't always win. Sometimes it's the hungrier fighter who wins.

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