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  • Originally posted by Slicedbread View Post
    Was Mosley really that far gone though?

    Didn't cotto barely heat him in a fight many believe Mosley actually won just like 2 years prior?
    Many believed. Lmfao i remember watching that fight live and cotto won a close but clear fight. Hell even mosley said so right after the fight.

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    • Originally posted by Black Jesus View Post
      I was ringside at Staples Center the night Margarito got busted for the hand wraps against Shane Mosely.
      Regardless of the handwraps, I was picking Mosely going into that fight just based on style vs style matchup.
      To this day, I am still very skeptical as to what was really found in his gloves.
      I have a great a deal of respect of respect for Naz Richardson, but how is it he was the only guy to catch something that everyone else seemed to miss?
      He also made the same claim about Felix Trinidad years before, when no other commission has ever caught him.
      Not saying it didn't happen, I'm just not going to run out and believe every one of Margarito's fights was fixed, simply because one trainer made a claim.
      I have yet to see a single photograph of what was discovered that night.
      Also, the second Cotto fight was going much the same way as the first Cotto fight, if not for Cotto targeting that broken eye socket (an ultimate bych move by Cotto)...
      But all in all, Margarito was a very important contributor to the Welterweight division from 2003-2010.
      I am a huge Floyd Mayweather fan, and I give him.all the p4p status in the world, but that is one fight I think he let get away from him. Would have been a fantastic matchup stylistically.
      Theres pictures plus his trainer admited to having inserts plus the commission admitted it. Also ****m talked about the tito situation and margarito 2. In the ring magazine u could look it up online 2. He said tito wrapped his hands a way thats legal everywhere including las Vegas but that way just wasnt legal in new york since the rules are a bit different. So they made him rewrap. Didnt have nothing inside his gloves or wraps though. He said margarito had inserts in his wraps . A ****m quote margarito was basically trying to play chess with extra pieces on the board.

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      • Originally posted by Rigpig View Post
        Definitely agree! He got his ass kicked after they caught him going into that fight and then the cotto rematch he got destroyed by cotto and didn’t inflict anywhere near the damage as the first fight
        Cottos face was worse after the second fight.

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        • Originally posted by JLC View Post
          Huh ? Isn’t that what this whole conversation has been about ?

          I mean, I guess as far as anyone could prove he never used plaster. He tried using it vs Shane but Nasim Richardson caught it. So that is what I was referring to. I also believe that wasn’t the first (or second) time he tried to use it. But whatever. The stuff was tested and analyzed and proven to be illegal and he was suspended and his coach suspended for life. Both should have been suspended for life though.
          It was trace elements. But do tell, if he his wraps were hardened, how come nobody who shook his hand after the fight noticed?

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          • Originally posted by Boy Jones Jr. View Post
            It was trace elements. But do tell, if he his wraps were hardened, how come nobody who shook his hand after the fight noticed?
            Lol. Why are you defending this dude ? Trace elements. Lol. Trace elements of PLASTER ?!?!? So he only used a little plaster, so thats ok. Since his hands weren’t solid cement bricks we should sweep this one under the rug. No harm done.

            Strange.

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            • Traces of calcium and oxygen are not plaster of Paris, it was just old gauze overblown by Naz.

              Heck even Cotto said it after the second fight that his punches felt the same.

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              • Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post
                The young man who was there that tested the substance on himself I was referring to is Dundee. The fact you didn’t realize that tells me you haven’t spent much time researching the matter. I said I trust that version of him, while the events are still fresh in his head, ahead of a 2004 Dundee. Young Dundee said something was there that was a lot like acid, if not acid.

                And I didn’t say citric acid the second time. Didn’t say it the first time either. I was pointing out that there are a variety of acids.
                In fact, Dundee theorized that it was Monsel's solution used on Liston's cuts that inadvertently got into Ali's eyes from clinches. I looked it up and found that it is made up of ferrous sulfate, sulfuric acid and nitric acid. Now I see where your acid theory came from. You could have mentioned that, if you knew.

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                • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                  In fact, Dundee theorized that it was Monsel's solution used on Liston's cuts that inadvertently got into Ali's eyes from clinches. I looked it up and found that it is made up of ferrous sulfate, sulfuric acid and nitric acid. Now I see where your acid theory came from. You could have mentioned that, if you knew.
                  What you need to be asking yourself is why didn’t Liston get blinded if it was applied to his face? And why have other Liston opponents complained of being blinded when Liston wasn’t cut?

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                  • Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post
                    What you need to be asking yourself is why didn’t Liston get blinded if it was applied to his face? And why have other Liston opponents complained of being blinded when Liston wasn’t cut?
                    What you need to ask yourself is, If Liston's corner helped him intentionally blind his opponents with acid, why wasn't it ever proven and bans issued? And why did Ali's blindness only last one round?

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                    • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                      What you need to ask yourself is, If Liston's corner helped him intentionally blind his opponents with acid, why wasn't it ever proven and bans issued? And why did Ali's blindness only last one round?
                      Liston had ties to the mob, so it’s not hard to imagine how it could have been swept under the rug. I’ve asked myself all these questions before. What I’ve landed on is where there is smoke, there is fire. None of this is definitive it never will be. The time to investigate was back then. I know what I know though.

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