Comments Thread For: Fury's Decision To Return License May Keep Him Beyond UKAD's Reach

[champion4ever]

It’s also not just whites. any from these other groups join in on the anti-black sentiment

Isn't that the Goddamned truth? You have many different boxing fans posing as white supremacists on social media who are actually Asian, Latino and every other type of ethnicity who call black fans monkeys, apes, the N-word and make references to slavery.

Then they have the nerve to wonder why some boxing fans decided to form a community group of YouTubers who call themselves the LDBC; Who supports black fighters to counter attack the hatred they receive from being black.

The irony, is you even have some black channels on YouTube who have anti-black racist boxing fans posing as white supremacists posting hateful comments about blacks.

Like calling black people monkeys, apes and the N-word too because they share a common bond; A very deep and utter profound hatred of Deontay Wilder.

[Adrian#1]

Why do black Americans get so triggered when a white man wins? they always try and make it about race... disgusting!
Small minded losers, they must be really insecure !

[Larry the boss]

Your country is built on all that lmfao. You lying black thug boys crease me.

We are a cunning people. Its only sneaky when we get one over on you mugs.

This one still sticks a bone through his fro.

Its not our fault that you black thug boys have the iq of ants.

TBear jaded BostonGuy
and look what he sent me

[KingOfGlory]

larryx why would you bump a week old thread just to cry and tattle on someone calling you mean names?

Maybe spend more time on that job search tab in your screenshot and less time on a boxing forum.

[Fanofreason]

When fury beats wilder without cracking the back of his head only then will he be a real champ

[EDDIE SPERM]

Gypsy CHEAT paid off a Boar farmer, dirtbag must receive a lifetime ban effective immediately! Sport's credibility hangs in the balance !

[Nuttybloke]

Hilarious.

Americans actually don't understand the great English sport we all know as boxing. It wasn't a motivation thing that stopped Mike. Or a drug or money thing, what stopped Mike Tyson was ability.

We read people think he was great because he became the youngest Heavyweight Champion. People over the years have taken that to mean he was a great champion, when he never was. Why? Because great champions win their belts against great champions as opposition. We NEVER claim any boxer as a great, when they've ducked other boxers? How can they be a great while knowing that? Tyson ducked both Lewis while he was Champion, and he ducked Rid**** Bowe completely.

Yet both of whom nobody could even begin to argue were much much much better than Mike Tyson ever was. And Tyson ducked both??. How can you call him anything like great knowing that? It's commonly known as bull****.

Lewis beat every man he faced in the ring? Everybody. No man can lay claim to have beaten Lewis, as the two that did, both got beaten up in the rematch. Rahman got brutally beaten up by Lewis after disrespecting him, and McCall burst into tears in his rematch.

What we find looking back over Mikes career was a career that was entirely fabricated by Don King. He had Mike in good shape and saw a chance for the WBC world Title against Trever Berbick (who isn't any sort of great boxer), who had just won the WBC title from Pinklon Thomas 8 months earlier.

King then saw James Smith (who isn't any sort of great boxer) beat Tim Witherspoon to win the WBA world title and straight away wanted Mike to face him.

Mike won the IBF world title against Tony Tucker (who isn't any sort of great boxer) and who had just won it from a fat Buster Clueless.

He won his WBC title again, by Don King getting the WBC to bypass Lennox Lewis (who was the mandatory for Frank Bruno's WBC title he had just won from McCall) and the WBC gave Mike Tyson the first chance at the title held by Frank Bruno when that should have been Lewis.

Then after Lewis had sued Tyson for not fighting him, and won his case. Don King paid Lewis about $4 mill to let Tyson fight Seldon (who isn't any sort of great boxer) for the WBA world title, with Tyson agreeing to fight Lewis next if he won. But as so not to face Lewis, Tyson dumped his WBC world title, and fought Holyfield losing his WBA title.

So the tale of the tape when we take away all the lies, and all the American casual's bull**** is very clear. Mike Tyson won every title he held from bums, and lost them to a not very good Douglas, and Holyfield. Mike won easy fights, then found himself at the top tier of the Heavyweights and was completely outclassed.

Mike Tyson's entire career was a Don King put together career, that avoided all the better boxers and only put Mike against easy targets that would make Mike look good to the uneducated American public. And you have to give it to the corrupt scumbag Don King? He fooled an entire nation of boxing casuals LOL.

[Nuttybloke]

Americans don't understand just how disrespectful their bull**** is to all the real great fighters we have really seen, it also only shows them up as casuals, that actually really don't understand the great sport we call boxing.

The 4 best boxers that Mike Tyson faced in the ring were
1. Larry Holmes.
2. Lennox Lewis.
3 Michael Spinks
4. Evander Holyfield.

1. Larry Holmes, who is one of the greatest top 10 heavyweights in history. But he faced Mike when he was long past his best and was in rapid decline. So we can't be honest and class him as the fighter he once was. The Holmes Tyson beat was not that Holmes or even close to that Holmes.

2. Lennox Lewis, who is one of the greatest top 10 heavyweights in history. After Mike had ducked Lewis for years he eventually faced him. And Tyson got beaten up.

3 Michael Spinks, who wasn't really a Heavyweight but a great light Heavyweight, he was also well past his best. So again we can't be honest and class him as the fighter he once was as that was his last fight.

4. Evander Holyfield, Holyfield is the first boxer in history to win a version of the heavyweight title four times. He was an undefeated Cruiserweight champion. Winning the title in only his 12th Pro fight making him one of boxing's finest boxers.

Holyfield fought them all, he beat most, and did so much in the sport of boxing, he's an icon, a legend, a true boxing superstar.

And that's it?. So he beat two ageing well past it former great boxers in decline. And he lost against the other two boxers that he fought who were what we know as great boxers. Mike Tyson, knocked over 30+ bums, then got to the top tier of heavyweights, got found out, and got beaten up. This is the reality, the truth.

One of the best fights we never got to see?, was Lewis vs Bowe. Both Bowe & Lewis had beaten everyone they had faced in the ring. No man can lay claim to beating either of them as Holyfield who did beat Bowe, got beaten by Bowe in a rematch, and Lewis beat the two that beat him, McCall and Rahman, in the rematch. Seeing Lewis brutally KOing Rahman for disrespecting Lewis. If Bowe & Lewis had fought each other?, the winner would be recognized today as one of the best 3 boxers in the history of Heavyweight boxing. Yet they all talk about IRON Mike Tyson? Just Wow!

[Nuttybloke]

All the Americans who don't ******ly try to make Tyson the fighter he wasn't? Well they'll all claim Ali as the best? Again BULL****!

Just take Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (26 May 1863 – 22 October 1917) who was a British professional boxer who was the sport's first three-division world champion. He also achieved fame for beating Gentleman Jim Corbett (the man who beat the man, John L. Sullivan), and he's in the Guinness Book of Records as the lightest heavyweight champion of all time, Incredibly he won the Heavyweight championship of the world at only 11 stone 7 lbs.

That feat and still standing world record alone, must see him right up as one of the best 5 of all time, as nobody has ever got close to doing what he did at such a light weight in the Heavyweight division, in over 100 years! But you'll not see anyone know this?, or if they do, they ignore it, why?, because he's not American?. That's also why so much boxing history is actually rubbish and can't be used to research or learn about these old time boxers.

The USA's cheating and lying, trying to create a fake history of boxing with outright lies has destroyed all the real boxing records and history of so many fighters it's sick. And many lies they'd have got away with, if others hadn't spoken up. Ring Magazine itself was found guilty of doing exactly that. If you want to understand the length of deceit the USA will go to, to lie about historical events, this will show you what I mean...

Although Bob Fitzsimmons became a world champion in each of the Middleweight, Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight divisions. American boxing historians do not consider him to be the first world Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion. Why? LOL @ This, “because he won the Heavyweight title before winning the Light Heavyweight title!” Haha, how pathetically sad is that? Could anybody be any more bias and pathetic, but who made them anyone to decide what counts and what doesn't? It's an English sport, English rules! The Marquis of Queensbury was English not American lol.

He is also the first fighter of only three boxers in boxing history to win lineal world titles in three of the original eight weight divisions of boxing also known as the “glamour divisions” with only Harry Armstrong and Manny Pacquiao having also achieved that feat.

How embarrassing the American people really are man?, they're famous as the global bull****ters of all time. It's never ending bull****, and it really is the same in everything you can think of?, even their outright lies about WW2?. It's all just lie after lie. Well, Michael Spinks counts as the first to win the Light-Heavyweight belt and the Heavyweight belt LOL Well there's a surprise?. Because Spinks did it in (the correct order) LMFAO, that must mean Bob Fitzsimmons just doesn't count then? Hilarious, yet so incredibly and embarrassingly pathetic.

In 2003, Roy Jones Jr. joined Bob Fitzsimmons, Michael Moorer and Michael Spinks as the only men to have won world championships at both Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight. But Michael Spinks counts as the man who did it first, even though he didn't because? Oh, just because the USA said so! LOL. Being honest and actually only going on what we do know and did see my top 10 Heavyweights of all time are...

1) Joe Louis.
2) Jack Dempsey.
3) Rocky Marciano.
4) Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (explained above)
5) Muhammad Ali.
6) Larry Holmes
7) James J. Jeffries
8) Lennox Lewis
9) George Foreman
10) Jack Johnson.

Not Ali! Henry Cooper fought Cassius Clay in 1963 at Wembley Stadium. The fight was a scrappy affair, and a key moment came at the end of the fourth round. Cooper landed a left hook that sent Clay sprawling through the ropes. Angelo Dundee helped Clay to his stool and revived him with smelling salts, something that was a violation of rules at that time. Dundee also forced a delay to repair a tear in Clay's glove, a tear some suspect Dundee created to stall for time.

A rejuvenated Clay came out for the fifth round and opened up a cut on Cooper's eye. Clay relentlessly attacked Coppers cut eye to force a stoppage on cuts, Cooper was ahead on the scorecards.

Clay, now known as Muhammad Ali, faced Cooper again in 1966 while defending his World Heavyweight Title. Clay adopted a more cautious approach only Cooper again suffered a stoppage defeat on cuts, despite AGAIN being ahead on the scorecards. It was only cuts that prevented Cooper from beating Ali twice. But you'll never hear about this, or if you do, it will be a bull**** version some American dreamt up in his own head, LOL. Cooper won the respect of Ali, who called him to reminisce on the 40th anniversary of the first fight. Ali once remarked on the first fight by saying Cooper had hit him “so hard my ancestors in Africa felt it.”

Ali was not the greatest at all. The facts are all there to see, read, and learn, so there is no excuse that we see anyone lie about it. Ali won 56 out of his 61 fights, and 37 of them were knock-outs. While these are great stats, other boxers had better: Harry Greb won 262 fights!, Sugar Ray Robinson won 173, and Harry Armstrong won 150. Rocky Marciano didn’t lose a fight.

The scope of the fights makes a huge difference since every fight is injurious (risky). A closer look at the boxing stats of Harry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson?, proves that they fought much better and stronger fighters than Ali did, certainly relative to their weight at the time. His own stats prove he wasn’t the greatest boxer to enter the ring. It is once again just American lies, And I've no idea why, as the real greatest of them all, Joe Louis, was also American!.

Joe Louis on the other hand showed the world what he was really all about. And It saw him recognised right throughout the world as the true great he really was.

Someone should put what he said, on every Black Lives Matter post we see. When responding to another person's characterisation of himself as, “A credit to his race” Joe Louis immediately replied saying, “Yes, Joe Louis is a credit to his race — the human race”.

The racist Black Lives Matter could do with understanding that. As all they stand for is black racism. Nothing else.

[Nuttybloke]

These black people endlessly blame the wrong thing. It's just complete ******ity on a brand-new level of ******ity. #BlackLivesMatter is nothing but provocative racism. Why? Because obviously, they could have used a hashtag like #AllLivesMatter. But no? Apparently ALL Lives Don't Matter? That just doesn't cut it? Isn't “provocative” enough? It's ONLY Black Lives that mean anything today?

Now I'm not naive, and I do know why they adopted that hashtag (because they're protesting against actions carried out against black people) I get it. But that doesn't mean it's not racism and certainly doesn't mean it's right? It is so racist it can't ever be seen as anything other than racism.

I had one of them say to me only yesterday... And he was convinced he was right? Telling me... “I'm wrong, it's not racist, ...because if we said #AllDogsLivesMatter that doesn't mean were anti Cats?”

Straight up, seriously you couldn't make it up?, they don't even understand what racism is? That's Astonishing! But when I pointed out to him just how ridiculous his opinion was? I said to him... “That's idiocy on a whole brand-new level of idiocy, a level of idiocy I don't believe we've ever seen before? Now say the same thing, only this time say... #AllBlackDogsLivesMatter and you might, you just might start to understand your own idiocy?” Well, I never did hear from him again.

#BlackLivesMatter Is not only deliberate outright provocative racism. But even worse is, that it's a betrayal against everybody who has campaigned for years for equality for ALL.

It's a BETRAYAL against everybody who has campaigned for years for human rights, for EVERY citizen, of EVERY nation.

It's a BETRAYAL against everybody who has campaigned for years for the colour of a man's skin being of NO MORE significance than the colour of their eyes.

It's a BETRAYAL against everybody who has campaigned for years for NO MORE first class and second class citizens of ANY nation.

It's a BETRAYAL against everybody who has campaigned for years to do away with the philosophy that holds one race SUPERIOR and another INFERIOR?

I can imagine they all feel BETRAYED.

All those years of trying to bring harmony and togetherness? AND you black people undo all those YEARS of work? And for what? For the most RACIST “Badge of honour” of ALL TIME? What a shocking embarrassment this is? Many of you don't even know what racism is? How IRONIC??

I'll tell you one thing that we can take from this though, as this has proven it. Is all these black people we see today supporting their own racism?, only shows and proves what they all really are.

Why have we not seen a single black person come out and do the right thing?, and say #BlackLivesMatter is outright racism, what are we all doing?” Not one black person has done that? Why not? It's racism no matter what you claim. And this alone should be showing everyone who the racists actually are?

If these roles were reversed?, just think about it? Would any white society allow #WhiteLivesMatter to be brandished all over the place? No, but what that would see, is millions of white people going out of their way to say so and to stop it? Far more white people would be against us doing that than would ever be for it? Why? Because it's outright in your face, undeniable racism?, that's why.

That is exactly what that hashtag is, and exactly as it reads? It's racism. No matter how well intended, or for what cause, it doesn't then make it right!! Far from it, it makes them far worse for even going there in the first place!

Yet not one black person is saying anything against it?. Yet they must all know how racist it is (then again, they're not to bright), yet not one is against it, are they? No, they proudly walk around displaying their racist badges, or wearing their racist *** T-Shirts shoving it in your face?

It's no different to all the black folk saying… “Look at us, hey you whites? Look we can be racists, while you can't? Hahaha you'd get nicked for it, ****** white boys hahaha”... This is how it will very soon be seen? Why? As that's EXACTLY what it is.

But seemingly every black person finds being a racist themselves as some sort of answer for how they get treated by criminal police forces with white racist cops? Yet they're actually doing what they're complaining is being done against themselves? Racism.

They actually had a chance to get the whole world behind them, (every colour of every nation). But again they chose instead to turn it into a black person vs white person racial war with that single-minded disgusting unthought about hashtag of racism.

What an incredibly ****** thing to do? I mean I've seen dumb many times, but this is just outright idiocy, because all they've actually done is to allow the whole world to once again, sweep it under the carpet and move on. And what's changed? Nothing! Oh, apart from they're now seen as racists. Making their own plight look far less worthy in the eyes of the world.

They have problems for sure, we all know that, but rather than actually see them confronting the real problem in any sort of intelligent way?, like looking for a way that would and could only lead to complete change before any of them would stop and lie down?

We watched them all once again, give it up and lie down. Rather than assuring change they instead settled for being allowed to use a racist hashtag? And a hashtag that only reads as outright racism, and therefore turns as many against them, as for them, but (as always) the bottom line remains the same?, nothing changes?

How many years ago did they start this fight? Well it has to be said, they've not got very far at all, have they? Far from it, it's as bad today as it's ever been? I wonder why? Because still they've learned nothing?

Still using criminal actions taken by racist US police as a way to attack the white people with their outright racist hashtag #Blacklivesmatter when their struggle is against white racists cops with a badge? Not the entire white race?.

Yet again, it looks like they want to make it black people vs white people racial war? How dumb is that? Good luck with that. That's dumber than the word dumb itself! Do you think you can win, or something? WOW. Go for it!