Why is sticking and moving still a thing?

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  • Real King Kong
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    #11
    Originally posted by smash_and_cash
    Im talking about out-boxing the way Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Erislandy Lara etc fight. Especially now with the internet, cutting off the ring should be general knowledge.
    I know these are great fighters and cutting off the ring wont instantly beat them but its not hard to cut off the ring and put a mover in the corner.
    Will this style die out when more and more people figure out how to cut off the ring?
    Have you ever tried to cut off the ring vs someone with great footwork and who’s significantly more athletic than you? What makes you think professional fighters simply haven’t “figured out” how to cut the ring off? Lol...I guess they can look it up on the internet.

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    • NORMNEALON
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      #12
      Why is sticking and moving still a thing he says ?? Like the way ali and leonard fought ?? Maybe Becuase its boxing and movement and a jab sets up everything you can possibly do in the ring . And those guys are all time greats, like TOP ATG's why wouldnt people want to use parts of guys like that's repitoir( even tho sticking and moving was utilized long before either of them ) . It is boxing 101 but to do it like the guys you stated is NOT EASY . Just like cutting off the ring is also NOT EASY , especially against guys like them . I don't know why I responded to this 1. The topic thread and content is confusing, the grammar is off ( so if u meant something other than what I've perceived I apologize ) . 2. U just asked why sticking and moving is still a thing in a boxing forum . Like cmon man . Prolly because its effective . It is tried tested and true and the guy who did it at the highest level were some of the best fighters to ever lace them up .

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        Most educated movers, are educated thinkers in the ring. Cutting off the ring against those sort of boxers isn’t an easy or basic thing to do.

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        • Black Jesus
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          #14
          Easier said than done

          Guys like Canelo, Cotto and Pac all cut the ring off on Floyd and had him on the ropes but still couldn't land that many clean punches on him

          Not to go off on a Floyd tangent, but he completely resurrected the Rope a Dope late in his career against younger, stronger opponents

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          • hansS
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            #15
            I like fighters that stick and move if they do it well.

            But I hate fighters that stick, hug, move, hold, hug. move.

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            • Combat Talk Radio
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              #16
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              it's not about... " figure out "

              it's about... the leader is always quicker than the chaser

              he knows where/when he is going

              also, he knows when he is going to stop/feint/step > PUNCH

              the best movers have you on a string

              EASY to say... NOT easy to do... especially if the fighter has world-class footwork/ringIQ

              EVERYONE said that Golovkin was a master at cutting off the ring

              I heard that for YEARS

              and yet, I got Sanchez admitting on video... that Golovkin is not the same fighter unless his opponent stands in front of him... that was back in 2014

              it is easy to say... NOT easy to do
              Sanchez said that because of that interview where Chavez Sr. told him to his face that he needed to teach Gennady how to cut off the ring.

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              • dibzvincent143
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                #17
                LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooollll

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  Sanchez said that because of that interview where Chavez Sr. told him to his face that he needed to teach Gennady how to cut off the ring.




                  nah he was talking to Seckback about power

                  Abel told reporters that Golovkin has not used all his power in the ring yet

                  Seckback asked... when will Golovkin use all his power

                  Sanchez replied... lets hope somebody stands in front of him so that he can

                  all I was saying is, movement defuses power... it removes your opponents strengths... they knew that

                  it just seemed a prime current example showing why movement will always be effective

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by smash_and_cash
                    Im talking about out-boxing the way Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Erislandy Lara etc fight. Especially now with the internet, cutting off the ring should be general knowledge.
                    I know these are great fighters and cutting off the ring wont instantly beat them but its not hard to cut off the ring and put a mover in the corner.
                    Will this style die out when more and more people figure out how to cut off the ring?
                    It won't die out because boxers akready know how to cut off the ring. Most can't do it effectively against a skilled defensive fighter. I will only end when judges change their opinion on what constitutes defense versus simply running away. There is a difference between the two and it can be a fine line. If defensive fighting won't pack a casino or generate PPV the dividing line will change.

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Sanchez said that because of that interview where Chavez Sr. told him to his face that he needed to teach Gennady how to cut off the ring.
                      He also told him that if Golovkin lost the rematch he should get the worst trainer of the year award. Ouch!!

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