Comments Thread For: Haye: Maybe Third Spot is As Good As It Gets For Wilder - Maybe Not

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  • DaNeutral.
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    #11
    Originally posted by steeve steel
    Joshua ran like a naked girl in the street against Ruiz! Would probably buy a Ferrari against Wilder..
    Well if wilder would of stopped ducking Joshua we may of found that out.

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    • kafkod
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      Fury is clearly ahead of Wilder at this point, but there's no evidence to rank Joshua ahead of wilder. Wilder was just pummeled by an elite hw who was lineal champion. Less than a yr ago, Joshua was battered until he quit vs a fat butterbean type hw. His uneventful John ruiz like decision win vs an even fatter Andy ruiz doesn't erase his loss and the vulnerability he displayed.
      Fury and AJ are world title holders so they have to be 1 and 2. That's objective. Who would win between AJ and Wilder is just opinion. My opinion is that AJ would KO Wilder faster than Fury did.

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        #13
        Sooooooo we are automatically putting Joshua over wilder? Hmm ok....

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        • factsarenice
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          #14
          AJ beat up a master boxer, Wilder was knocked out by one.



          Originally posted by Oldskoolg
          Sooooooo we are automatically putting Joshua over wilder? Hmm ok....

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            #15
            1) Fury
            2) Wilder
            3) Joshua

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              #16
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg
              Sooooooo we are automatically putting Joshua over wilder? Hmm ok....
              Your damn right we are. Why wouldn't we? What has Wilder done? Who has he beat? Luis ortiz? The same Luis ortiz that had to go life and death with Dave Allen and other B and C class fighters?

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                #17
                As a big Joshua fan it's clearly Fury at number 1 and Joshua at number 2. Now I've seen how truly useless wilder looked agaisnt his 1st ever A class fighter I'm not even sure he slots in at 3.

                That awful padded record of his left us all wondering if he was actually any good at all, turns out no, he wasn't. He was like a rabbit in the headlights. He had no idea how to handle a proper fighter going at him.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Fury and AJ are world title holders so they have to be 1 and 2. That's objective. Who would win between AJ and Wilder is just opinion. My opinion is that AJ would KO Wilder faster than Fury did.
                  I understand what you're saying as far as belts, but I personally don't pay much attention to belts when determining who's the best in a division, especially if the opposition faced to win those belts is mediocre at best. Everyone will have their opinion on who would win between Joshua and wilder, I don't see Joshua being able to do what fury did. He's not as good of a boxer, doesn't have as good of a chin, and doesn't have the same kind of heart.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Articulateboxin
                    I think Wilder's age is going to be one of his biggest limiting factors very soon. He's a reflex / speed guy who relies on the briefest moments where his opponent switches off. That window of opportunity for opponents to react to the right hand is going to get larger and larger from 35+ most likely. However I think he's better than most of the top 10, however just like AJ - he has chin troubles for sure and that means anybody can beat him, it's just a percentage play
                    This...........

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sayf
                      I'm no hype believer, but I can't see anyone outside of Fury, Joshua, Usyk who would give him to much trouble.
                      Maybe a game Ruiz if he's fit, but he was easy to hit against Joshua in both fights, granted he out worked Joshua in the first, and will get flattened without changing his style.

                      Whyte is risky but is even easier to hit, so I can see him getting sparked early, no doubt that he has a good chance now Wilder's air of invincibility is gone.

                      Washington, big baby, Martin and even Pulev I see getting destroyed by Joshua, Usyk, Wilder and Fury. Outside of those there's really only Dubois who will be protected by Warren for a while yet, maybe for a vacant title when it becomes available.
                      Thats damn neat 5 guys right there that i think can beat him also. Id love to see the big baby fight. Thats the fight to see. And also the build up will be amazing

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