Should Fury vs Klitschko be ruled a No-Contest?

[MDPopescu]

I suppose ******* could be used to cut weight, so fair point.

(Does ******* mask other drugs too? I think I heard it might, not 100% sure).

Cheating or not, it could be a case of 'mexican beef' because the wild boar story checks out, he was living off the grid in a caravan with Hughie and Peter and I know someone in his family, I think a brother, breeds boar or something

... I like to think that I'm quite "neutral" here... but OK, you really were funny with this one...

[pittapatta66]

... I like to think that I'm quite "neutral" here... but OK, you really were funny with this one...

well, it doesnt quite 'check out' but it should be considered.

he was probably cheating though, his responses to questions about it seemed really odd. he'd tell anyone who asked him about it to pi$$ off basically

[MDPopescu]

well, it doesnt quite 'check out' but it should be considered.

he was probably cheating though, his responses to questions about it seemed really odd. he'd tell anyone who asked him about it to pi$$ off basically

... Well... take this one: Gypsies are almost always thieves and cheats... (that's how they usually behave in life)... therefore I don't mind too much...

[BillyBoxing]

... in fact, Fury has a messy history with drugs...

... "The Sunday Mirror claimed that test samples taken between February and March in 2015, before Fury’s first bout with Klitschko, led to an investigation by UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) officials. The paper said that Fury and his cousin “then attended a meeting in September, when he was told the levels of the steroid (nandrolone) found were higher than the body would naturally produce”.

... then, VADA had Fury tested positive for ******* before the Klitschko rematch and was suspended for 2 years from boxing...

... (Nota Bene: Klitschko did not file a complaint after the first fight... Got tricked?...)

he is not more a cheat than Canelo as far as I'm concerned.

He had a too high rate of something, just like Canelo, but they never proved he cheated.

He sur did take *******, but TBH, it does not help to perform better, it fck your mind up and ruins your body.

I think he took ******* like most of 20s english dude partying...
BUT I might be wrong.

[Marchegiano]

I suppose ******* could be used to cut weight, so fair point.

(Does ******* mask other drugs too? I think I heard it might, not 100% sure).

Cheating or not, it could be a case of 'mexican beef' because the wild boar story checks out, he was living off the grid in a caravan with Hughie and Peter and I know someone in his family, I think a brother, breeds boar or something

To an extent. Using one you know well, ******* + Ethanol = Cocaethylene

Basically any ester is going to mix to an extent and form a new chem. Glycol from like an E-cig or some such similar nonsense would be enough to change it again, this time making it s sort of polymer. I believe it's used for pharma stuff like inhalers and what not so, can get medical grade propylene glycol easy enough.


What the three together would do is dry a mother ****er out properly and to prove these specific chems must have been the esters used to create the polymer at the end is well....hard. There's more than one way to skin a cat you know? It's just as difficult to take the end result in a body as it is in a material.


What I mean is, there are companies out there whose thing is plastics or paints, polymers in general. If it was a simple as taking the already mixed sample home and having a look at it to reproduce it you'd bee more mom and pop level home chemist shops. We like working from home too. You don't because I have no effin clue how Axalta makes their paint so damn good. I could guess until cows fly but knowing is another story.


At the end of the day, these guys aren't even normal. "normal levels" is kinda subjective when you're dealing with a fella like Fury. I'd imagine in his depression his testerone dipped. I'd imagine leading into the Wilder II fight it was peaking. His levels should be what dictates his norms because honestly, Fury having a trace chem like something I explained and saying he just ate some mexican beef or some such I might believe his ass. Especially would believe him if high meant high end of his range and not the range of 'normal' pro boxers.

Obviously that doesn't apply to coke so well, but you get my point.


edit - I should note I am a polymer chemist. Don't do coke and drink and drink some nicoless ejuice thinking it'll flush you of *******. I just pulled an example I felt that was relatable out of my ass that would probably work. It might kill you too. It might do nothing. I know damn sure there will be a reaction in your liver though and the products left over will by polymeric in nature, not so much drugs.