How would Ray Mercer have done in todays HW division?

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #31
    Originally posted by HitmanTommy
    Anyone?....
    Fury puts that man in a body bag.

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      #32
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Mercer was a good fighter with a chin of granite. He gave Lewis all he could handle. He would do very well today. Andy Ruiz beat Joshua and Mercer is a better fighter than Andy IMO.
      Yeah, because Joshua was fully prepared for that fight.

      How'd the rematch play out?

      When did you see Ruiz's handspeed from Mercer?

      Joe Grimm had a granite chin. What'd that make him? The losing'est fighter of all time.

      That's what Mercer would be... until his opponents targeted his body. Then he'd be stopped.

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        #33
        Originally posted by emceetns
        This is what I said in my post:

        Fury at his best wins a decision, however the Fury who fought Otto Wallin would struggle mightily and the decision might be controversial.

        In other words, if Fury doesn't show up at his best (Fury wasn't at his best when he fought Otto Wallinmo), he would struggle mightily (against Ray Mercer) and the decision might be controversial (meaning the fight could go either way)

        At no point did I directly compare Otto Wallin to Ray Mercer
        Don't matter how you want it interpreted you said Mercer could do what a 6'6" 230 lb. Southpaw did when fighting like a man-possessed.

        Mercer never had those dimensions. He never fought with that sense of urgency. He wasn't a south paw. And MAYBE he didn't even have that chin.

        Oh and what did Wallin do that night? Win about THREE rounds. That's it! But hey ... it's 3 more rounds than the best Mercer would have won.

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          #34
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          Fury puts that man in a body bag.
          Yeah. He devours him.

          I'd pick the other top guys to have good results too.

          But mercer would still destroy plenty of fighters today. Very underrated fighter historically.

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            #35
            Mercer may have been a huge puncher but he was a second tier fighter at the time and he wouldnt be much different today.

            There are several guys today who would beat Mercer.

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              #36
              Originally posted by BangEM
              LMAO. Josh knocks him out cold in 5 rds.
              Damn, how does it feel to have one mans balls in your mouth all day, everyday?

              Originally posted by TheReadyTimeBoy
              I don't think you've seen ray Mercer fight
              This is true

              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
              You're worse than Coronavirus
              This is also true.

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              • TonyGe
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                #37
                Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                Yeah, because Joshua was fully prepared for that fight.

                How'd the rematch play out?

                When did you see Ruiz's handspeed from Mercer?

                Joe Grimm had a granite chin. What'd that make him? The losing'est fighter of all time.

                That's what Mercer would be... until his opponents targeted his body. Then he'd be stopped.
                Because someone could take a punch had a losing record is irrelevant. Ray was a solid heavyweight not the cream of the crop at the time he was campaigning. The question was how would he do today not would he be the very best heavyweight. I think he would do very well. Let's face it other than a few guys at the top the heavyweight division is at a historical low point right now.
                Last edited by TonyGe; 03-11-2020, 11:32 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  Let's face it other than a few guys at the top the heavyweight division is at a historical low point right now.
                  I'd love to see you substantiate that.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                    I'd love to see you substantiate that.
                    I don't have to. If you disagree it's up to you to disprove my claim. After all I was directing my initial post to someone else who hasn't responded to me indicating I'm wrong on that point. . I think it's only fair If a person jumps into another conversation it's proper that they post why think it's incorrect. Not some vague references to another fighter with a good chin who had a dismal record. I think that reasonable people would agree that is a totally irrelevant point.
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                      #40
                      Joseph Parker and Andy Ruiz Jr. were champions.

                      And some of you seriously think Mercer can't get a belt in this era?

                      Watch his fights with Tommy Morrison, Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, and Evander Holyfield.

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