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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    Originally posted by pillowfists98
    If you really think Helenius would beat Wilder you don't know **** about boxing. Just because Wilder lost to Fury doesn't mean he isn't still one of the best HW's in the world. You should watch Helenius fights against Gerald Washington and Johann Duhaupas. He wouldn't make it past the 4th round with Wilder.
    Read my next post insulter boy. My total boxing knowledge does not depend on one damn fight pick. If you think Wilder looked good last fight like a guy you could have confidence in for his next fight then you don't know sh it about boxing your damn self.

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    • pillowfists98
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      #12
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Read my next post insulter boy. My total boxing knowledge does not depend on one damn fight pick. If you think Wilder looked good last fight like a guy you could have confidence in for his next fight then you don't know sh it about boxing your damn self.
      You are a confused person. Whether you win or look good in a fight depends a lot on the skills of your opponent and the style matchup presented. Losing to Fury has no bearing on how Wilder against some mid level HW like Helenius would play out. Wilder has already proved many times that he can handle guys like that with little problems.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by pillowfists98
        You are a confused person. Whether you win or look good in a fight depends a lot on the skills of your opponent and the style matchup presented. Losing to Fury has no bearing on how Wilder against some mid level HW like Helenius would play out. Wilder has already proved many times that he can handle guys like that with little problems.
        He had serious problems against splizka

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        • Chollo Vista
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          #14
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          Looking over Helenius's record he was knocked out by guys Wilder knocked out so I think I will change my pick to Wilder by KO. Wilder can still KO anybody he can hit cleanly a few times with his best punches. Helenius is obviously still a dangerous opponent even at 36 years old.
          I wouldn't necessarily use triangle theories to justify Wilder beating Helenius either. Kownacki mopped the floor with Washington who beat Helinuis who beat Kownacki.

          I would justify Wilder beating Helenius because he's chinny, drops his left hand and for the most part loses in the majority of the fights he steps up in competition.
          Last edited by Chollo Vista; 03-08-2020, 11:43 AM.

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            Originally posted by pillowfists98
            You are a confused person. Whether you win or look good in a fight depends a lot on the skills of your opponent and the style matchup presented. Losing to Fury has no bearing on how Wilder against some mid level HW like Helenius would play out. Wilder has already proved many times that he can handle guys like that with little problems.
            You are the one who is confused. I studied the record of Helenius and changed my pick to Wilder by KO. Can you read and understand what you read? I don't give a rat's ass who wins this fantasy fight but it sure seems important to you and you continue to insult my knowledge of boxing as if you were some ***ing expert yourself. Every fight has a bearing on how two fighters do against each other. Helenius just KOed the number 4 ranked heavyweight in the world in a few rounds so that takes him out of the mid level status and a few midlevel guys staggered Wilder and had him in trouble. You a big Wilder fan and get all bent out of shape if anybody says he might lose. Just because someone does not share your opinion does not mean they lack boxing knowledge. You are a rude arrogant conceited jack ass. Go back and read my 2nd post where I changed my pick to Wilder by KO, DUMBASS

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            • a.rihn
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              #16
              I'm going on record for Helenius vs Wallin.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #17
                Be serious, I have never liked Wilder, but helenius is still a journeyman. Wilder got stopped by the best heavyweight in the world. Helenius got stopped by Duhaupas and Washington. helenius is just Euro version of Breazeale, worse version.

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                • Black Jesus
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                  #18
                  Would be a great 2 or 3 round fight that Wilder would win by KO.
                  If it were 2012 Robert Helenus I'd give him a better shot to take the fight deep but even then I'd pick Wilder by ko

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #19
                    is this a joke?

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                    • Zelda
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                      #20
                      Wilder knocks out Helenius even if he has to wear the costume the whole time, has an injury or cold (or both) while Helenius trains at the Kronk gym with Javon and has both Ben and Fury in his corner.

                      I never rated Kownacki very high and have stated that before this fight. Even then, I was surprised Helenius won the fight in this fashion but neither is championship material. Both get KOed by the likes of Whyte, Povetkin, Chisora, Ruiz, Ortiz, Miller, Hunter, Usyk, Dubois, Joyce, Rivas, etc. not to talk about the top-3.

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