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  • Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
    Truth is that Fury when returning to boxing wasn't in shape to fight AJ so he took the easier and wiser route and fought Wilder. Now he is in shape to fight and beat AJ but the Wilder rematch clauses have to be honored first. Hopefully the AJ fight is his next fight after the Wilder trilogy. Fury is not afraid of AJ at all. Fury fights AJ and they make a fabulous amount of money and then Fury probably retires as the undisputed HW champion.
    None of that is guaranteed, especially when it comes to Fury, who can change his mind at the drop of a hat. He has never defended a belt and I think that had as much to do with the steroids as anything else. But the point is, these guys have to fight to prove who is the best and AJ seems to be the only one wanted to make the fights happen. I have the feeling that after Wilder, Fury will take another tune up or a Chisora fight, especially if Chisora beats Usyk. Then the entire thing gets pushed back even further because Whyte and his mandatory is dues after that.

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    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      this kind of talk is just casual-fan foolishness

      FACT: there have been 3 other legitimate champions during Fury's career

      FACT: he already beat 2 of them... and will be favored over the 3rd

      FACT: AJ only fought 1 of them, the worst one... going life-n-death with him in the process... and the only reason why AJ took that fight is because Fury has already beaten the guy and there were serious questions about whether he was shot

      AJ desperately needs to beat Fury, to legitimize his reign... especially after being dropped 4x by Andy Ruiz... there are far more questions over AJ than Fury... we know what Fury can do

      if AJ does not take that fight... blurting out the same bullshlt/excuses that they used to avoid Wilder... fans will ALWAYS say that he ducked both of those fights... simply because he will be the common-denominator

      those other guys made big fights, and they fought each other... but AJ did not

      he will forever be known as Golovkin 2.0

      we know that Fury will take the fight

      whats good about this, is that Fury is LOUD and articulate

      he will tell the world who ducked who if AJ does not come to the table
      Fury has not defended any titles ,Joshua has several title defenses it’s easier not to lose with who Fury has fought . Defending multiple times is more taxing on the body ,if it were easy most fighters would have more then 5 title defenses .

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      • Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
        Fury has not defended any titles ,Joshua has several title defenses it’s easier not to lose with who Fury has fought . Defending multiple times is more taxing on the body ,if it were easy most fighters would have more then 5 title defenses .



        nope

        when you get bashed by a short fat nobody, you start from scratch... AJ won his titles off Andy Ruiz, and is about to make his first defence against Pulev

        Fury fought Wilder, when Joshua would not... we still don't know if Joshua could beat Wilder, AJ is not Tyson Fury... AJ has never beaten anyone who is as good as Fury or Wilder

        AJ needs to legitimize his shaky heavyweight title reign

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        • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
          so let him man up and sign to fight with Joshua.
          He knows Joshua will knock him senseless and all he does is talk about it.
          Wilder is not a good yard stick to judge him
          He doesn't know that at all.

          He knows Joshua is beatable since he lost to Ruiz and he knows he's a better fighter than Ruiz.

          When Fury fights Josh, he will be in maniac mode, like the klit and wilder fight.
          Josh who doesn't always show up in big fights better bring his A game or Fury will make him look like a bum.

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          • Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
            I entirely agree with your impression that he'd be a tough outing for any HW in history, but the whole eye test thing is easily dismissed. Back in the early 2000's I seriously thought an undefeated Dominick Guinn (24-0) was going to be the future of the HW division, based, of course, on the good ol' eye test. Then he proceeds to finish his career 38-13-1. Resume, competition faced and competition defeated, actually do matter when talking about ATGs.
            You thought Dominick Guinn was good eye test wise vs journeymen and contenders.

            We have eye test material of Fury vs Wilder twice and Wlad.

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              this kind of talk is just casual-fan foolishness

              FACT: there have been 3 other legitimate champions during Fury's career

              FACT: he already beat 2 of them... and will be favored over the 3rd

              FACT: AJ only fought 1 of them, the worst one... going life-n-death with him in the process... and the only reason why AJ took that fight is because Fury has already beaten the guy and there were serious questions about whether he was shot

              AJ desperately needs to beat Fury, to legitimize his reign... especially after being dropped 4x by Andy Ruiz... there are far more questions over AJ than Fury... we know what Fury can do

              if AJ does not take that fight... blurting out the same bullshlt/excuses that they used to avoid Wilder... fans will ALWAYS say that he ducked both of those fights... simply because he will be the common-denominator

              those other guys made big fights, and they fought each other... but AJ did not

              he will forever be known as Golovkin 2.0

              we know that Fury will take the fight

              whats good about this, is that Fury is LOUD and articulate

              he will tell the world who ducked who if AJ does not come to the table
              Man you gotta always bring Golo up.

              You're a good poster but you become irrational when it comes to Golo.

              Golovkin fought Canelo twice TBH, so he stepped up twice to fight a guy who is arguably an ATG in his prime and TOP5 P4P.


              He was far from being ridiculous doing so, I had him wining 11/12 rounds out of 24.

              Joshua is far from that in terms of top level of oppo.

              Let's see if AJ can fight Fury and have 24 close rounds with him.

              Golo never got stopped by Ruiz level fighters. Not bashing Ruiz who is far from being a bad fighter...but still AJ lost bad by tko ****.
              Golo lost a competitive fight and god knows Canelo is much better fighter than Andy.
              Last edited by BillyBoxing; 03-06-2020, 03:12 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Slimpack View Post
                He can't be one of the greatest if he failed to defend those belts on multiple occasions.
                He's defended his lineal title multiple times.

                Originally posted by Slimpack View Post
                From the look of things Fury is afraid to lose. He love the titles but don't want to take the responsibilities that comes with it. And from his fight with Wallin, it is obvious he can be beaten by a skilled boxer that is young and hungry. His two best wins were with the old tired Wlad and the sloppy Wilder (whose best win was against an old Ortiz)-does these two fights make him the greatest?
                Fury went to America to fight the hardest puncher of all time despite knowing he wasn't anywhere near fit, and you claim he's afraid to lose? What a fking idiot!!

                Anyone who understands boxing knows that Fury was weight drained against Wallin, and yet despite being horribly cut, he still won pretty much every round.

                Klitschko was a 12yr unbeaten champion, Wilder was a 5yr unbeaten champion. Fury destroyed both of them in their backyards. That's a great achievement despite how you attempt to spin it.


                Originally posted by Slimpack View Post
                Boxers like Whyte, Parker, Dubois, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Yoka, etc, have what it takes to beat Fury hands down. Less skilled boxers have downed his ass before. Don't get me wrong, Fury is a good and skillful boxer but he is far from being one of the greatest of all time as you claim. You just committed a sin! May the Lord forgive you for lack of wisdom.
                YDKSAB if you think that gym sweepers like Whyte & Parker could beat Tyson Fury, they wouldn't win a round against him, Fury would box their nut off.

                As for the others, they've yet to beat a good opponent between them.

                When Fury knocks out Wilder again and then AJ, maybe you'll start to realise that he's a special fighter.

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                • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                  tell fury to sign the god damn contract and prove it , he’s beating a donkey in wilder fact.
                  Even John McDermott beat fury and that shows the level he always has been at.
                  Life and death with chisora who was koed by Haye and easily beaten by pulev.
                  Fury is doing a khan by running away from fury while in the same breath biggun himself up.
                  Tell ***** to sign the contract and face Joshua and prove he’s better.
                  I’ll give fury all the credit in the world if he signs to face AJ but I have feeling he will fake an R.P Mcmurphy again and go cold turkey
                  Haha when you're bringing up decade old fights, you know you've lost the argument. Fury has proven that he'll fight anyone, it's AJ who ducked Fury and Wilder to fight some bums.

                  Life and death with Chisora? Fury won every second of every round and made him quit lol.

                  The fact you refer to Fury as a "*****" shows your racist agenda.

                  Sad!!

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                  • Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                    He doesn't know that at all.

                    He knows Joshua is beatable since he lost to Ruiz and he knows he's a better fighter than Ruiz.

                    When Fury fights Josh, he will be in maniac mode, like the klit and wilder fight.
                    Josh who doesn't always show up in big fights better bring his A game or Fury will make him look like a bum.
                    a maniac fight for the klitchcko fight are you having a ****ing laugh , he boxed timid and it was a bore fest , in fact so bad people were walking out before it’s finished.
                    He might have been able to back up skinny legged wilder who cannot fight on the backfoot and certainly won’t do with 248lb AJ.....are you willing to make a wager on it manos de piedra? Let me know

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                    • Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      a maniac fight for the klitchcko fight are you having a ****ing laugh , he boxed timid and it was a bore fest , in fact so bad people were walking out before it’s finished.
                      He might have been able to back up skinny legged wilder who cannot fight on the backfoot and certainly won’t do with 248lb AJ.....are you willing to make a wager on it manos de piedra? Let me know
                      Plunger is going to kill himself when Fury knocks AJ out.

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