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  • #91
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    Sorry but no fighter gets better at 41 and after 18 months out of the ring. Doesn’t happen. Wlad had been on the slide for a bit and was shot by the time AJ fought him. Look how old his legs looked.

    The reason Wlad looked good v AJ is because big stiff AJ would’ve been a tailor made handpicked opponent for Wlad a few years earlier with his style. That’s why his experience allowed him to be very competitive against a stiff upright fighter like AJ, but he was too old and lacking in confidence to pull the trigger and finish the job.

    The Wlad that fought Fury was a bit fresher and still confident. He would’ve beaten AJ.

    Fury’s style would’ve been a nightmare for any version of Wlad.

    That’s the truth. But if you want to delude yourself that a 41 year old fighter coming off a long layoff and a loss was a better fighter, then carry on.
    Wladimir Kiltschko had 3 training camps back to back, before he fought Anthony Joshua 'He described the task of beating Anthony Joshua? One of his defining challangers, the fight that HIM and Emmanuel Steward would fantasize about arriving 'The fight where Kiltschko was the underdog, written off and had everything to gain'.

    Wladimir Kiltschko was vividly in better condition, go and check the weigh in or 'Just the actual fight'. Before Kiltschko fought Fury there was a look of competent in his eyes when he looked upon Fury, almost as if he was looking at a toddler 'When he fought Joshua? I saw venom, and a passion that I had never seen within Kiltschko for along time'.

    Kiltschko has even stated himself that he was in better condition vs Joshua than Fury.

    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-05-2020, 01:49 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Wladimir Kiltschko had 3 training camps back to back, before he fought Anthony Joshua 'He described the task of beating Anthony Joshua? One of his defining challangers, the fight that HIM and Emmanuel Steward would fantasize about arriving 'The fight where Kiltschko was the underdog, written off and had everything to gain'.

      Wladimir Kiltschko was vividly in better condition, go and check the weigh in or 'Just the actual fight'. Before Kiltschko fought Fury there was a look of competent in his eyes when he looked upon Fury, almost as if he was looking at a toddler 'When he fought Joshua? I saw venom, and a passion that I had never seen within Kiltschko for along time'.

      Kiltschko has even stated himself that he was in better condition vs Joshua than Fury.

      What do you expect him to say when going to fight AJ?

      “I’m not as young as i was, a bit more faded, inactive”

      Every old fighter say they’re in the best shape in years before they fight. Don’t be so naive.

      Also, Wlad never liked Fury, so he will never give him the real credit.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        don't talk absolute shlt... you fkn spastic

        Fury beat a BETTER version of Klitschko... and he beat him EASILY

        AJ went life-n-death with Wlad AFTER Fury let the air out of his tyres
        Fury knew what was coming and quickly 'retired' himself prematurely by taking *******. He would have been eaten raw by Wlad in the rematch. Every big fighter often have one bad fight. Wlad had one bad night but Fury never gave him the chance to regain his belts and titles. Your man is a con artist!

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        • #94
          Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
          What do you expect him to say when going to fight AJ?

          “I’m not as young as i was, a bit more faded, inactive”

          Every old fighter say they’re in the best shape in years before they fight. Don’t be so naive.

          Also, Wlad never liked Fury, so he will never give him the real credit.
          I will also hate a boxer that stole my belts without given me the opportunity to regain them. That isn't fair!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Slimpack View Post
            Fury knew what was coming and quickly 'retired' himself prematurely by taking *******. He would have been eaten raw by Wlad in the rematch. Every big fighter often have one bad fight. Wlad had one bad night but Fury never gave him the chance to regain his belts and titles. Your man is a con artist!
            Fury beats any version of Wlad. That’s why Wlad avoided him for 2 years. Fury kept having to fight final eliminators and still got avoided until Wlad couldn’t anymore. Steward even told Wlad before he died that Fury would be the one to beat him and that haunted Wlad, which is why he avoided him until he was forced to fight or be stripped.

            He’s absolutely the worst style for Wlad.

            No version of Wlad beats a focused Tyson Fury.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by texasboi15 View Post
              I believe he's ATG already.

              Just off the eye test alone without resume consideration

              Big tall awkward and versatile. Very talented. High boxing IQ. And now with a little bit of power!

              He'd be a problem for ANY all-time great.
              I entirely agree with your impression that he'd be a tough outing for any HW in history, but the whole eye test thing is easily dismissed. Back in the early 2000's I seriously thought an undefeated Dominick Guinn (24-0) was going to be the future of the HW division, based, of course, on the good ol' eye test. Then he proceeds to finish his career 38-13-1. Resume, competition faced and competition defeated, actually do matter when talking about ATGs.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by denium View Post
                And you sound like a fgt. You're the one going on about Joshua being the "unified champion" I'm just telling you how it actually is.



                Fury went to America and fought the most feared man in boxing despite knowing he wasn't anywhere fit, why the *** would he duck a man who got dominated and KOd by a morbidly obese unranked nobody 8 months ago?

                Fury was weight drained against Wallin who is actually a very decent HW, rest assured, now he's fit and at his ideal weight, he'll smash AJ's glass jaw all over the ring.
                H with
                That's if Joshua actually gets in the ring with Fury and doesn't suffer another "panic attack"

                You carry on talking about a completely out of context sparring session if it makes you feel any better, but deep down you know what's going to happen.
                tell fury to sign the god damn contract and prove it , he’s beating a donkey in wilder fact.
                Even John McDermott beat fury and that shows the level he always has been at.
                Life and death with chisora who was koed by Haye and easily beaten by pulev.
                Fury is doing a khan by running away from fury while in the same breath biggun himself up.
                Tell ***** to sign the contract and face Joshua and prove he’s better.
                I’ll give fury all the credit in the world if he signs to face AJ but I have feeling he will fake an R.P Mcmurphy again and go cold turkey

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                • #98
                  Furys the best until proven otherwise but there's better fighters for Fury than Wilder who I felt after the first fight he was custom made to defeat . Joshua is that guy Fury has to win over ,he's the other champion.

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                  • #99
                    Fury cannot be an ATG by fighting only two top 10 heavies in his era. He's got to clean the division by beating at least 6 of the top 6. Worse, he hasn't defended any title in his entire career so the talk of ATG cannot hold water

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                    • Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
                      Furys the best until proven otherwise but there's better fighters for Fury than Wilder who I felt after the first fight he was custom made to defeat . Joshua is that guy Fury has to win over ,he's the other champion.

                      Originally posted by Oshio View Post
                      Fury cannot be an ATG by fighting only two top 10 heavies in his era. He's got to clean the division by beating at least 6 of the top 6. Worse, he hasn't defended any title in his entire career so the talk of ATG cannot hold water



                      this kind of talk is just casual-fan foolishness

                      FACT: there have been 3 other legitimate champions during Fury's career

                      FACT: he already beat 2 of them... and will be favored over the 3rd

                      FACT: AJ only fought 1 of them, the worst one... going life-n-death with him in the process... and the only reason why AJ took that fight is because Fury has already beaten the guy and there were serious questions about whether he was shot

                      AJ desperately needs to beat Fury, to legitimize his reign... especially after being dropped 4x by Andy Ruiz... there are far more questions over AJ than Fury... we know what Fury can do

                      if AJ does not take that fight... blurting out the same bullshlt/excuses that they used to avoid Wilder... fans will ALWAYS say that he ducked both of those fights... simply because he will be the common-denominator

                      those other guys made big fights, and they fought each other... but AJ did not

                      he will forever be known as Golovkin 2.0

                      we know that Fury will take the fight

                      whats good about this, is that Fury is LOUD and articulate

                      he will tell the world who ducked who if AJ does not come to the table

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