If Tyson Fury retired right now

[Zelda]

Fury is highly skilled but if he retires now...he would be remembered as the guy who wins and refuses the rematch. Could Klitschko have made the necessary adjustments? Secondly, his most important wins would sure have been two long-reigning champs but one that was getting older and the other that isn't known for his skills. And there will always be the question of "could he really have beaten AJ?" ( I think so).

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Fury beats Wilder and AJ and retires as the GOAT.

[Stev3]

His trash talking skills alone should be enough for him to go the the HOF
He's won all major and minor titles in boxing.

[BillyBoxing]

Look I'm a Tyson fan. I won a 8yr old bragging rights contest with this latest win on a competitor forum cuz of my confidence in how badass Tyson was going to be in the future in 2012. That said does 2 fights, no matter how impressive the W's are, make one HOF worthy? Maybe, maybe not, but I hardly feel it's a clear & concise without argument definite yes is all I'm suggesting.

Klit is definitely an HOFamer.

And I'm pretty sure WIlder will be in with his 10 defenses + KO ratio despite his oppo being quite average.

So beating 2 HOFamer on the roll definitely will put him into the hall of fame.

We can discuss the HOF level today...

Fighters nowadays tends to be overrated because there are 4 world titles wich is an aberration.
So basically WIlder defended 10 times a strap, never was the HW world champion, he had to beat Fury last week to do so.

Boxing would be much more fair and competitive if you only had one title.
UFC having success with one clear champ.

Fury is the HW champ, and Joshua won't fight him next because Joshua is fine milking with Eddie 3 ABC belts.
No pressure and big fights, because they are the WBO mando, the WBA mando...cheap excuses..

160 with Drade, mall, G, Jacobs, Nelo have been a worst exemple.

Those X belts make the industry produce X fakes champions but very few true champ.

As active fighters that have been true champion nowadays, I have Nelo, Loma, Rigo, Fury, Bud, CHocolatito, Inoue, Manny.

The rest have been belt holders, PBC is a nice factory of belt holders.

[Slicedbread]

With the current standards hell yes..

With standards as strict as they should be - it's 50/50. He's beat 2 of the 3 greatest HWs of the past decade

If he beats wilder again. Then beats Joshua and say Whyte or a Usyk or a Hunter then he's top 5 And arguably better than Lennox.

[DreamFighter]

he would be rated the same as any other champion with zero defences.

if you put him in for beating HoF Wlad, then you'd need to put Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick in for beating Ali.

actually that said, I tihnk Leon should be in, for being the first brothers set to win the HW title.

[Eff Pandas]

Klit is definitely an HOFamer.

And I'm pretty sure WIlder will be in with his 10 defenses + KO ratio despite his oppo being quite average.

So beating 2 HOFamer on the roll definitely will put him into the hall of fame.

We can discuss the HOF level today...

Fighters nowadays tends to be overrated because there are 4 world titles wich is an aberration.
So basically WIlder defended 10 times a strap, never was the HW world champion, he had to beat Fury last week to do so.

Boxing would be much more fair and competitive if you only had one title.
UFC having success with one clear champ.

Fury is the HW champ, and Joshua won't fight him next because Joshua is fine milking with Eddie 3 ABC belts.
No pressure and big fights, because they are the WBO mando, the WBA mando...cheap excuses..

160 with Drade, mall, G, Jacobs, Nelo have been a worst exemple.

Those X belts make the industry produce X fakes champions but very few true champ.

As active fighters that have been true champion nowadays, I have Nelo, Loma, Rigo, Fury, Bud, CHocolatito, Inoue, Manny.

The rest have been belt holders, PBC is a nice factory of belt holders.

You're preaching to the choir about the merits of Fury's accomplishments.

That said his accomplishments basically can be narrowed down to two fights? Should 2 fights be enough to get one in the HOF? Idk man. It seems a lite schedule when you break down that Klitscho was old & even Wilder was 34 & of limited abilities even for a HW. I see the argument for nah he doesn't deserve it is the beginning & end of my take on the subject.

And again debating it is all for naught cuz the HOF doesn't have a high barrier to entry & the reality is if Fury had never fought past the Klitchko fight I think he woulda gotten in.

[hugh grant]

Yes, for abusing himself for 3 years and them still not being able to beat him, he needs to be put in. Plus its not always just resume as the opponents you beat can be overated or underated, but his skillset and IQ should put him in. He went to their backyards 3 times and has 3 wins. He was underated all 3 times, so lesson learnt is don't underated him. Compensate him in fact.
But lets see how he does with Josh first.

[BillyBoxing]

You're preaching to the choir about the merits of Fury's accomplishments.

That said his accomplishments basically can be narrowed down to two fights? Should 2 fights be enough to get one in the HOF? Idk man. It seems a lite schedule when you break down that Klitscho was old & even Wilder was 34 & of limited abilities even for a HW. I see the argument for nah he doesn't deserve it is the beginning & end of my take on the subject.

And again debating it is all for naught cuz the HOF doesn't have a high barrier to entry & the reality is if Fury had never fought past the Klitchko fight I think he woulda gotten in.

2 wins?
Should not be enough.

But he beat the two best HW of the decade in Klit and Wilder.
Josh kinda dropped out of it by losing to snickers boy.

And let's say he would have beaten them by narrow SD ala Nelo vs GGG, it would be pretty good but not really great.

The thing that he smoked both best HW of the 2010s, one 12-0 rounds and the other by **** TKO7 is pretty awesome.

I also think Wilder vs Fury 1 was a great fight and Fury should have been the victor.

My question is this? Does HOF means ATG status?

I see HOF as a lower status nowadays.
It just means you deserve to be remembered for your career.
Fury is def in it.

But I dunno if he's an ATG, but sht, his level of boxing vs Wilder and Klit is def on ATG level, crazy and sweet to watch.

If he beat Josh, he's in my ATG book.

[Eff Pandas]

2 wins?
Should not be enough.

But he beat the two best HW of the decade in Klit and Wilder.
Josh kinda dropped out of it by losing to snickers boy.

And let's say he would have beaten them by narrow SD ala Nelo vs GGG, it would be pretty good but not really great.

The thing that he smoked both best HW of the 2010s, one 12-0 rounds and the other by **** TKO7 is pretty awesome.

I also think Wilder vs Fury 1 was a great fight and Fury should have been the victor.

My question is this? Does HOF means ATG status?

I see HOF as a lower status nowadays.
It just means you deserve to be remembered for your career.
Fury is def in it.

But I dunno if he's an ATG, but sht, his level of boxing vs Wilder and Klit is def on ATG level, crazy and sweet to watch.

If he beat Josh, he's in my ATG book.

ATG has always been a bs sci fi concept to me if you talk about it in any real way. Fury has been among the best of his day already. That's all you can be. Anything else is speculative bs & often favoritism to ones era of a preferred era.