Who are the biggest weight bullies in boxing right now?
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That I agree with. Because draining yourself down to make weight does give you an advantage, but it also puts you at a disadvantage too.Those are different. Those are clauses that the cash cows impose on fighters. I agree with you that they should be done away with.
In other words, if Tank or Canelo fights at a CW, that is BS. If they however are just big for the weight class but make weight, then too bad for the opponent.
Although it is upsetting. I remember at the GGG/Canelo II undercard Munguia was 173lbs when he fought Cook (156lbs) and Lemieux was 175lbs when he fought O'Sullivan (162lbs) and I just thought "Munguia and Lemieux should be fighting eachother"Comment
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Couldn't agree more. The thing that most people don't take into account is just because you suck way down and make the weight on the scale, doesn't guarantee you an advantage. You can go too far with the weight loss and actually make yourself weaker on fight night. It's a big gamble every time, and doesn't always work out.I don't believe there is a such a thing. If you make the weight then that is the class you fight in. Period.
Weight bullies is a term IMO NSB posters use when they are upset that a guy they don't like is able to campaign at a weight class and dominate. It's actually embarrassing that a site that is aimed toward diehard boxing fans actually takes issues with fighters that make weight.Comment
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Nobody that I can think of. It was canelo but he seems to of settled down to some actual recognised weight classes instead of his BS 155 canelo weight.
If you can boil down on the scales and hydrate a silly amount without it crippling you then do it. I'd rather they didn't cuz it can't be good for them in the long run but they meeting the rules and specifications so they ain't braking any rules.Comment
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If you make weight, you make weight. Only thing i might call a "weight bully" is if you use your status to make smaller guys come up or bigger guys drain themselves.
But as far as guys cutting a lot of weight, as i said if you make the limit you make the limit. Besides, it isn't necessarily an advantage. These fighters who are cutting a ton are always weakening themselves, only question is how much.
Also worth noting that a lot of guys who are walking around heavy aren't in shape when they do. Hatton got close to 200lbs at times between fights, doesn't make him a huge WW.Comment
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Started his career as junior middleweight. Has just as many fights if not more at junior middle than he does at welter. If you don't believe me go to boxrec and see for yourself.
Got to keep my weight in control for now on ain’t nothing cool about blowing up 25+ pounds an having to spend camp losing that **** ⚠️
— Errol Spence (@ErrolSpenceJr) September 29, 2019
Here is him blaming his Porter performance on weight loss/weight drain.Comment
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I take issue with it as well, especially with hydration clauses. As a matter of fact, I like what Kell Brook said to Amir Khan when Khan wanted to insist on a weight clause:
"I'll make 147 and then eat whatever I like"Comment
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There is no such thing if both guys make the contracted limit. Now if someone misses weight (while his opponent makes weight) and then pays his opponent to have the fight go forward anyway, then I could agree with the "weight bully" accusation. Corrales-Castillo 2 comes to mind actually, and I don't know if Castillo had to pay anything but he definitely had an advantage from not making weight.Or do you believe there is no such thing? If a fighter can drain himself down 30+ pounds to make weight, it's not always an advantage if they aren't in peek condition. For some it is an advantage if they can blow up on fight night another two or three weight classes against a naturally smaller opponent.
I would have to put Spence and Crawford at the top of the list. They each walk around at about 175 - 180+ and drain themselves to get to 147. Crawford was draining heavily at 135.
Prior to his move to 147, Mikey walked around at 165+, was as high as 170 when he trained for Lipinets.
Weight bully may also be considered for fighters who bring smaller fighters up in weight, and then blowing up on fight night, often refusing to be weighed on the day of the fight. Canelo? Or fighters who can't/won't make weight...Tank?Comment
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