Can Eddie Hearn turn Haney into a superstar?

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  • rolshans
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    #21
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    Exactly. Ryan makes millions outside the ring. He was asked by media before his last fight if he can go a day without posting on social media. His response was I'm paid millions to post on social media if you were paid that much money you would post everyday too I promise you. And that's just social media where he is being paid, he has large endorsement, modeling gigs, acting gigs the man had his own teeny bopper TV show produced by Brat TV



    Haney getting paid nothing but a fight purse, nobody but die hard boxing fans know who he is. Ryan getting 2 fight purses 1 hidden by Commissions like PBC fighters and a entire stream of millions outside of the ring.
    Lol but again, why don't you think Haney is getting 2 fight purses? Gotta be consistent.

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      #22
      Originally posted by rolshans
      Lol but again, why don't you think Haney is getting 2 fight purses? Gotta be consistent.
      Because he's not with Haymon and his fights aren't selling out big venues last fight was on a youtube undercard. Canelo for years was filling commission reports saying he was making 5M purses for huge PPVs where it was reported he was guaranteed 20M. Ryan is making more money then Haney. You the first one I even seen make a debate about it. lol Ryan is driving more expensive cars and has been bragging about making millions before he even steps into the ring because of all the money revenue streams he has. Haney showing up at his fights that draw bigger crowds clout chasing because he needs big fights to get to the level that Ryan is already at.
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-06-2020, 02:44 PM.

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        #23
        I doubt it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by sicko
          NO! Politics will keep him from landing him the Big Fights for him just like with Andrade and you're already seeing it
          I agree but Andrade is a little different. Hearn has fighters and options for Andrade at 160 and 168 but he has a conflict of interest because of DAZN. Hearn is trying to deliver better fights that DAZN wants that's why guys signed with Hearn are getting big fights before Andrade. If Andrade was with any other promoter he would be their number 1 priority and would of pushed to get the undisputed fight with Canelo last fall. But Hearn working for DAZN cut Andrade's knees out by trying to force the Canelo/GGG fight instead of Andrade and then colluded with GGG to drive up the price for Dervy to get GGG a belt at 160 without having to fight Andrade. Because it's not in Hearn's business interest with DAZN Andrade lost out on Canelo and lost out on GGG and in the process Canelo gave up the IBF belt which was the best leverage Andrade had to get a future Canelo fight. Without undisputed on the line why does Canelo have to come back to 160 or ever fight Andrade.

          Haney can't get fights because Hearn doesn't have any big names at 135 and other promoters have better options for their top guys. Hearn does have fighters at 160 and 168
          Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-06-2020, 02:57 PM.

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #25
            Not if he avoids all the hard competition like 99 percent of these apparently amazing American prospect

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            • rolshans
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              #26
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              Because he's not with Haymon and his fights aren't selling out big venues last fight was on a youtube undercard. Canelo for years was filling commission reports saying he was making 5M purses for huge PPVs where it was reported he was guaranteed 20M. Ryan is making more money then Haney. You the first one I even seen make a debate about it. lol Ryan is driving more expensive cars and has been bragging about making millions before he even steps into the ring because of all the money revenue streams he has. Haney showing up at his fights that draw bigger crowds clout chasing because he needs big fights to get to the level that Ryan is already at.
              Wait...so only Haymon fighters + Ryan Garcia make two fight purses?? Hmm...

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              • Saint Scrappy
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                #27
                Haney, who?

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by rolshans
                  Wait...so only Haymon fighters + Ryan Garcia make two fight purses?? Hmm...
                  Haymon and Golden Boy worked under the same umbrella for years so yes they both operate similar to get around State commissions in America. hearn a UK promoter trying to figure all this out on the fly and I've never seen any of their fighters brag about making more then their commission fight purse. Matter fact Haymon fighters have turned down deals with Hearn because what his deals were less then they make with these 2 fight purses that apparently Hearn was totally unaware of when he tried to sign them all. It's not even a debate Ryan makes more money. I like Haney but be real he needs Ryan or another big name to get to that next level as a superstar. Ryan is already there if he keeps winning forget just a superstar he is the cash cow of the entire sport. He's already gamed the system and found a way turn his 5.5M instagram followers into a millions in revenue before he even steps into the ring.
                  Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-06-2020, 03:41 PM.

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                  • rolshans
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    Haymon and Golden Boy worked under the same umbrella for years so yes they both operate similar to get around State commissions in America. hearn a UK promoter trying to figure all this out on the fly and I've never seen any of their fighters brag about making more then their commission fight purse. Matter fact Haymon fighters have turned down deals with Hearn because what his deals were less then they make with these 2 fight purses that apparently Hearn was totally unaware of when he tried to sign them all. It's not even a debate Ryan makes more money. I like Haney but be real he needs Ryan or another big name to get to that next level as a superstar. Ryan is already there if he keeps winning forget just a superstar he is the cash cow of the entire sport. He's already gamed the system and found a way turn his 5.5M instagram followers into a millions in revenue before he even steps into the ring.
                    Okay, got it. The reported purses for Haymon and GBP fights are inaccurate, but for everyone else, they're accurate.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by #1Assassin
                      Hearn is a clown. Just bankrolls his way into talent and tries to take on their accomplishments as his own. Does anyone really think that AJ wouldn't be successful if he was with Warren, Hennesy or any other promoter? when you got it, you got it.

                      Hearn is a two bit conman with a rich daddy is all.
                      Absolutely not.
                      Eddie makes moves. His connection to Dazn and his connection to Saudi, that's where the big money is coming from. End of the day, Eddie promoting himself has helped bring that money into boxing.

                      As for Haney, what Eddie told him was that the social media machine will be working around the clock for him. All that means is the attention through social media channels.
                      if he was a pbc fighter he would not get that level of coverage.

                      However to truely make it big like AJ, he has to do it in the ring. It's very early days yet.

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