If not boxing acumen what is Wilder working on in the gym?

[MulaKO]

He pays them to call him king and feed his delusions. It looked like Deas didn't give a **** about him when talking about the stoppage.

Fugh me , I thought I was the only one who felt that way
Even his look , like he was nonchalant
WTF

He works on spinorama moves and other cool shyt

Hahhahahahahaahahahahaha

[Commie]

How to get out on a stretcher that looks like Saurons shield

[MDPopescu]

If not boxing acumen what is Wilder working on in the gym?

I have been watching him since his pro debut and his early fights on FNFs, in terms of skill he has not developed all that much in 12 years so I wonder......what does he actually work on in the gym?

Is it just strength and conditioning?

For that he could just save the money on trainers and get a membership at the PF and work on that himself.

Hell, I'll train him for far less than whatever he's paying these people to not teach him boxing techniques.

... "Is it just strength and conditioning?"... maybe they've tried more already... maybe he wasn't interested in learning more...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I have been watching him since his pro debut and his early fights on FNFs, in terms of skill he has not developed all that much in 12 years so I wonder......what does he actually work on in the gym?

Is it just strength and conditioning?

For that he could just save the money on trainers and get a membership at the PF and work on that himself.

Hell, I'll train him for far less than whatever he's paying these people to not teach him boxing techniques.

You watched that crap for twelve years?

Congratulations.

You have shown the commitment and grit to be a true boxing fan.

For God's sake, watch anybody else now. You'll see twenty times more talent and have a reason to enjoy the sport.

[Madison Boxing]

What's that saying 'You can't teach an old hype job new tricks'. Maybe he will improve a tiny bit not enough to make a real difference, I'm not even sure he can knock the heavier version of fury out with a lucky punch. I won't pay to watch it but guess watching the highlights of wilder getting smashed again will be pretty entertaining

[Marchegiano]

What did Fury go to Kronk for?


Boxers do not posture or position like punchers. Fury went to Kronk to learn more about what Wilder is doing and apply it to his own game....because boxing is not punching.


You have to pick a lane. It is as simple as saying if I'm leaned forward I am not leaned backward am I and so I have limited how I can respond to an attack right? Well if one posture is a pucher's posture and another is a boxer's how the **** do you do both at the same time? You don't.

Fury could pick up punching because Fury has no more boxing to learn. Wilder's got more punching to learn, so does Fury, that's where he can exploit Tyson still.

Boxing is a no hope, no chance, avenue for him......like Deontay Wilder's going to box and move so's Tyson Fury is befuddled....c'mon. He could still maybe KO Tyson with a little more composure, output, and line of sight.

A puncher should never allow a punch without trying their own. You don't protect yourself with your defense as a puncher to protect yourself with your fists.


When Marciano put down Walcott it became a legendary sequence in boxing because it was perfect, he was the perfect puncher displaying exactly what punching is all about. He did not wait for the perfect shot and moved out of the way of it to deliver his own. He go into position to give Joe the same exact shot Jow put him down with and then when Joe hopped on it Rock beat him to the punch. During the sequence both men's fists are flying, guard is non existent, Marciano lands before Joe and Joe's fist goes limp before Joe lands. It is the perfect display of what punching is......it ain't boxing boys and there is technique to it.


Composure while being attacked, Wilder has none.

Output for Wilder is always low. He should miss more because he should be punching more. Seriously like the only raw puncher to become champion and still worried about looking silly. He should look silly actually. There's a reason Tyson Fury never looked sloppier before. People are claiming all sorts of injustice, from gloves to where he landed, all sorts of criticisms that basically just mean TF was kinda sloppy compared to normal TF and that makes us su****ious. Why? Maybe because he incorporated some punching and did not care if it looked bad as long as it worked. Rabbit punch? Opponent's fault? Welcome to punching kids. Marciano is like king of rabbiting and getting away with it because the opponent put their head there....because posture and position, because punching is not boxing.


Finally is line-of-sight. Ever watched Marciano and Charles and wonder why the hell a great mover like Charles is just standing there while Marciano throw obvious, wide, wild shots from huge distances? That's because Rock baits fools with a punch so's they can't look at both hands. It looks different on the inside. He wants you worried about that right, he wants you to try to neutralize the right. He wants you really really focused on the right. That way when he wings an overhead right you're paying attention to it....but not his left and that's the one he's about to cream you with actually.


lean back, throw right hook, watch response, repeat. Once the opponent is in the flow of it and responds to the lean consistently, lean and throw a right way up over your head and bring it back down to their face. If they react to the hook again the overhead will fly out of line of sight and back in, it's called a phantom because of that. Obvious from the outside, unseen from the opposition. But what if they're wise to it and watch that right closely? They've watched too close, end 'em with the left like Rock did Harry.


There is though, planning, mechanism, and technique to punching. The fact that most people never even learn what punchers are up to speaks loads toward an industrial bias against them, but, punchers have always been and will always be because punching can be picked up more quickly than boxing and it makes champions. To this day the unbeaten HW champions are punchers and when a boxer in our era got close he chose of his own free will to go learn some punching to keep his 0. Let that **** settle a second and maybe eventually some of youse crack a book.