Educate me on Julio Cesar Chavez Sr

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  • True-Boxing-Fan
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    #11
    Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
    He's regarded as an All Time Great by many.

    Can someone tell me what his best victories were and why? Does he hold any victories over other ATG's?

    Using his resume, how would you argue he beats these fighters..

    Duran
    Mayweather
    Mosley
    Can you tell me how long you been watching boxing?

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    • DumpkinsPlus5
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      #12
      Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
      Can you tell me how long you been watching boxing?
      Since Wilder vs Fury 2. Can you tell me who the best fighters JCC beat were?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Luilun
        Beats Mayweather at 135,140 Juiced up Mayweather beats him at 147 Same with Mosley beats 135 Mosley but Balco Mosley beats him at 147 Duran stops him
        Yep, Durán would stop him. I think your answer is correct.

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          #14
          Simply the G.O.A.T.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            The big deal is that Whitaker schooled Chavez and didn't get the win he deserved.
            Whitaker was flashier but Chavez was doing a lot of good work that night too.

            He wasn't schooled. Chavez had to overcome a serious speed disadvantage.

            The reason the backlash for the Whitaker decision is so strong, is because of what happened in the Taylor fight. Some people think Chavez got away with one there and were overly upset when they thought it was happening again. Remember, Chavez was with King back then.

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            • Boxingraya
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              #16
              Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
              He's regarded as an All Time Great by many.

              Can someone tell me what his best victories were and why? Does he hold any victories over other ATG's?

              Using his resume, how would you argue he beats these fighters..

              Duran
              Mayweather
              Mosley
              There has to be tons of fighters regarded as great that you don't know much about. Why pick on Chavez?

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxingraya
                Whitaker was flashier but Chavez was doing a lot of good work that night too.

                He wasn't schooled. Chavez had to overcome a serious speed disadvantage.

                The reason the backlash for the Whitaker decision is so strong, is because of what happened in the Taylor fight. Some people think Chavez got away with one there and were overly upset when they thought it was happening again. Remember, Chavez was with King back then.
                Chavez won like 3-4 rounds tops against Whitaker. He got schooled.

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                • DumpkinsPlus5
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxingraya
                  There has to be tons of fighters regarded as great that you don't know much about. Why pick on Chavez?
                  GREAT question. Great fighters tend to have great victories. The greater the opponent, the greater the victory, the greater the fighter.

                  Ali over Foreman
                  Duran over Ray Leonard
                  Ray Leonard over Hearns

                  It's easy to see why these fighters are called All Time Greats. As I'm doing my research, I came across the name JCC. He seems to be regarded as an All Time Great by most boxing fans. That being said, I wanted to learn of his great victories in the ring.

                  Hence this thread, where people are quick to call him great with no mention of his resume. People seem to think he couldn't beat Duran, but could beat Mayweather and Mosley. I don't really care who people pick, I just want to know why, by way of resume. There has to be something about his career that makes people feel one way are another.

                  What I really want to know are which other All Time Greats he beat. I've asked who the best fighters he beat were, and nobodies been able to answer.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Chavez won like 3-4 rounds tops against Whitaker. He got schooled, in my humble opinion.
                    Fixed it for you.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
                      GREAT question. Great fighters tend to have great victories. The greater the opponent, the greater the victory, the greater the fighter.

                      Ali over Foreman
                      Duran over Ray Leonard
                      Ray Leonard over Hearns

                      It's easy to see why these fighters are called All Time Greats. As I'm doing my research, I came across the name JCC. He seems to be regarded as an All Time Great by most boxing fans. That being said, I wanted to learn of his great victories in the ring.

                      Hence this thread, where people are quick to call him great with no mention of his resume. People seem to think he couldn't beat Duran, but could beat Mayweather and Mosley. I don't really care who people pick, I just want to know why, by way of resume. There has to be something about his career that makes people feel one way are another.

                      What I really want to know are which other All Time Greats he beat. I've asked who the best fighters he beat were, and nobodies been able to answer.
                      Do you consider Taylor an ATG? What about Rosario or Castillo? Whether or not there is a legitimate ATG on his resume or not, he absolutely mugged a lot of really, really good fighters.

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