I see Crawford as the next fighter to 'do a wilder'

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  • Madison Boxing
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    I see Crawford as the next fighter to 'do a wilder'

    I.e fight weak opposition (at the very least neither have beat an elite fighter) all his career and lose when he steps it up to cash out late on in his career. Now before people start crying, Crawford is clearly technically way better than wilder (but didn't broner and charlo 'clearly pass the eye test' too?) but there's been warning signs already at welterweight, and he's spent his whole career fighting limited opposition. Also on a side note it's funny how Crawford is p4p top 3 for dominating 140 but when Taylor beats better fighters at that Weight he's not even in the top 10 and the division is 'weak', wonder why that is.... Anyway also a similarity in sense that they both had no interest in fighting an elite guy until they sensed they were weakened - wilder was desperate to fight fury after he'd put on 100lbs, Crawford started calling out spence saying fights gotta happen now as soon as he stumbled out of intensive care.
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    Originally posted by Madison boxing
    I.e fight weak opposition (at the very least neither have beat an elite fighter) all his career and lose when he steps it up to cash out late on in his career. Now before people start crying, Crawford is clearly technically way better than wilder (but didn't broner and charlo 'clearly pass the eye test' too?) but there's been warning signs already at welterweight, and he's spent his whole career fighting limited opposition. Also on a side note it's funny how Crawford is p4p top 3 for dominating 140 but when Taylor beats better fighters at that Weight he's not even in the top 10 and the division is 'weak', wonder why that is.... Anyway also a similarity in sense that they both had no interest in fighting an elite guy until they sensed they were weakened - wilder was desperate to fight fury after he'd put on 100lbs, Crawford started calling out spence saying fights gotta happen now as soon as he stumbled out of intensive care.
    You've been trying to push this anti-Crawford agenda for a while, and I can understand people being disappointed by his level of competition...but NO

    There are no parallels whatsoever with Wilder. Is his record underwhelming? Yes. But it's not as bad as Wilder and certainly not as bad as some of you try to make out. He beat and for the most part dominated an undefeated Gamboa and Postol, nothing to shirk at.

    He has dominated a lot of C level guys since and the fights with the top guys haven't happened. I think Crawford has gone a little stale as a result, which happens. I think he needs a threat in front of him or people doubting him to truly excel.

    But there is a reason why fighters are avoiding him, and it has nothing to do with promotional companies, there is a reason why Manny or Freddie Roach wouldnt even entertain a fight with him in the past, people in the boxing fraternity KNOW, people in gyms talk.

    To me his career has more parallels with Joe Calzaghe...I think at some point one of these fights get made for sure, Porter is willing so if Crawford cant get Pac or Brook then Porter should be next. I do think sometimes that Arum is part of the problem.

    But make no mistake...Crawford is special, it's only a matter of time before its proven without any doubt

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      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      I.e fight weak opposition (at the very least neither have beat an elite fighter) all his career and lose when he steps it up to cash out late on in his career. Now before people start crying, Crawford is clearly technically way better than wilder (but didn't broner and charlo 'clearly pass the eye test' too?) but there's been warning signs already at welterweight, and he's spent his whole career fighting limited opposition. Also on a side note it's funny how Crawford is p4p top 3 for dominating 140 but when Taylor beats better fighters at that Weight he's not even in the top 10 and the division is 'weak', wonder why that is.... Anyway also a similarity in sense that they both had no interest in fighting an elite guy until they sensed they were weakened - wilder was desperate to fight fury after he'd put on 100lbs, Crawford started calling out spence saying fights gotta happen now as soon as he stumbled out of intensive care.
      Do you really believe that
      Sorry I just don’t see it
      Hes a very sound boxer
      Seems to have a pretty good chin and decent power
      His defence is not bad imo and he’s blessed by being a switch hitter ( orthodox and southpaw )
      I do agree though his resume is not up to date but can’t lay all the blame on him for that

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      • Vinnykin
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        Crawford is too good for a sustained beating from round uno..... no fighter is ****** enough to try it.

        It will take a very good fighter to break Crawford down and it will take many rounds and skill.

        I just don't see what you are pushing here?

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          #5
          Originally posted by sunny31
          You've been trying to push this anti-Crawford agenda for a while, and I can understand people being disappointed by his level of competition...but NO

          There are no parallels whatsoever with Wilder. Is his record underwhelming? Yes. But it's not as bad as Wilder and certainly not as bad as some of you try to make out. He beat and for the most part dominated an undefeated Gamboa and Postol, nothing to shirk at.

          He has dominated a lot of C level guys since and the fights with the top guys haven't happened. I think Crawford has gone a little stale as a result, which happens. I think he needs a threat in front of him or people doubting him to truly excel.

          But there is a reason why fighters are avoiding him, and it has nothing to do with promotional companies, there is a reason why Manny or Freddie Roach wouldnt even entertain a fight with him in the past, people in the boxing fraternity KNOW, people in gyms talk.

          To me his career has more parallels with Joe Calzaghe...I think at some point one of these fights get made for sure, Porter is willing so if Crawford cant get Pac or Brook then Porter should be next. I do think sometimes that Arum is part of the problem.

          But make no mistake...Crawford is special, it's only a matter of time before its proven without any doubt
          I agree with this
          And very good comparison with one of my all time favourite fighters ; Joe Calzaghe
          Green coming your way

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            Crawford can actually fight though he’sa very well schooled boxer. He probably will lose in time the majority of boxers lose at one point or another going undefeated isn’t normal or something that happens for most fighters. Wilder is a laughing stock because of poor opposition and the fact that he actually can’t box he only has a good right hand

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              Putting Crawford and Wilder in the same category makes about as much sense as comparing Golovkin and Wilder. Crawford is not turning down offers for career high money to fight his rivals... he’s been the one making offers if anything.

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                I doubt we'll see Crawford get completely outclassed in every round like Wilder. I can see Gervonta Davis catching a whooping like that though.

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                  Originally posted by Madison boxing
                  wilder was desperate to fight fury after he'd put on 100lbs, Crawford started calling out spence saying fights gotta happen now as soon as he stumbled out of intensive care.
                  I'm sorry mate but you are wrong on both accounts. Fury was a fight that Deontay Wilder did not need. He only took it because Matchroom and Joshua had refused to fight him.

                  In other words, Fury had nothing that Wilder wanted other than a name. Wilder wanted to become the undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world which was why he kept calling out Joshua but Joshua was neither interested or ready.

                  He fought Tyson Fury on the rebound. He thought it would have be an entertaining and crowd pleasing fight that fans would want to see.

                  Also, Crawford has been calling out Spence ever since he made his foray into the welterweight division. He was the only one calling him out. Spence was ducked by all the elites in the welterweight division. Including: Mayweather, Pacquiao, Thurman, Porter and Danny Garcia.

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                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    I doubt we'll see Crawford get completely outclassed in every round like Wilder. I can see Gervonta Davis catching a whooping like that though.
                    Yeah I can't see Crawford losing to D. Garcia, Pac, or Spence.

                    IMO I think Davis can DEFINITELY lose. He believes in his power wayy too much like Wilder.

                    Loma would school the sht out of him. Haney would beat him and so would Teofimo.

                    Heck I see Leo Santa Cruz giving him hell and stealing a bunch of rounds by just being more active...

                    Spence also??? All that drinking eventually going to catch up with him. And he sounds punch drunk

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