Comments Thread For: Wilder - Bury The Suit and The Excuse, Don't Bury The Fighter

[MexicanStyle#1]

I've heard every excuse in the book!!! However, this one tops by far anything I've ever heard!!! Fury has beat this limited pseudo boxer twice!!! The second time was a brutal beating. So, a third is needed exactly to prove what? This will turn into Pac vs Marquez all over again. Wilder's fans want him to fight fury until he finally hopefully wins. Pac fans always wanted a rematch until he hopefully won!!!

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But the fighter made the excuse about the suit!

[MDPopescu]

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Wilder has progressed incredibly far considering he's clearly never prioritised his weaknesses. ...

... this isn't exclusively his fault -- his trainers and handlers share a good deal of the responsibility... Wilder debuted as a pro about 12 years ago...

[dibzvincent143]

Well written. Like i said previously, it’s obvious wilder lacks skills and technique but what makes anyone think anybody can just do what fury did? It takes a good game plan, great self belief, cojones, skills and probably size to do what he pulled off.. what makes anyone think joshua wouldn’t have been worried about that right hand? What makes anyone think he’ll come in rushing to do the same? Maybe now that there’s a blueprint yes... but everyone would have been worried about that right hand before fighting that undefeated wilder. And it just happened fury is the one man who doesn’t.. most would be intimidated too, during the pre fight build up..

Fury made the same approach the first time around, box from the outside... most would’ve, most have and gotten KTFO.

[Adamsc151]

... in the military, I served at the firefighters -- we used to train with more than 40 kilos of equipment on... (and I was so small back then...)...

Sorry mate didn't mean to leave out the emergency services, I've always thought of us all as within the same bracket.
I've seen firefighters sprinting and climbing ladders with more than 40lbs of hose just in one training drill among many in a day. Paramedics have to move an entire person be they 80 lbs or 300 lbs if they are incapable of moving themselves. I've had to carry twice the weight of Wilders Wilders suit in a Bergen, armour and weapon for miles of rough terrain before building camp and cooking supper at the end of it. Pretty much any training drill of the military or emergency services all make Wilders excuse laughable really.

[Ant1979]

... this isn't exclusively his fault -- his trainers and handlers share a good deal of the responsibility... Wilder debuted as a pro about 12 years ago...

I completely agree with you and referenced the 'yes men' surrounding him, namely Deas.

May have even been a little harsh in terms of that analogy but like you say he debuted around 12 years ago.

I remember a good 10 years ago when Fury fought McDermott and was shocking, throwing the same old combo and gassed after 6. And who can forget when he uppercut himself in a video that went viral?

To be fair he still claims that's the hardest he's been hit haha but look at him now. He's got a fantastic engine, can effortlessly switch hit and has the movement, agility and speed of a much smaller man.

[DougalDylan]

I thought this was Wilders first step up fight a fully fit Fury was the opponent no one could argue with but he got taken out real easy,

Fury is probably the best pure boxer heavyweight but a lot of other boxers Wilder has missed can box. Klitschkos used his jab like a surgical instrument at times. Usyk would be a nightmare for Wilder, he's a pound for pound cruiserweight at heavy and the weight difference that might be his undoing will be negated as Wilder is also a blown-up cruiserweight. Joshua and Povetkin are also on paper way better pure boxers than anyone Wilder has fought. Most Wilder fans think Ortiz who one every round against Wilder is a good boxer but compare his amateur record against Povetkin or Joshua and its a joke 9seriously go check).

Years ago I saw an interview with Jay Deas where they all laughed after a win about how Wilder always ignored the game plan ... I just thought accident waiting to happen.

Well written. Like i said previously, it’s obvious wilder lacks skills and technique but what makes anyone think anybody can just do what fury did? It takes a good game plan, great self belief, cojones, skills and probably size to do what he pulled off.. what makes anyone think joshua wouldn’t have been worried about that right hand? What makes anyone think he’ll come in rushing to do the same? Maybe now that there’s a blueprint yes... but everyone would have been worried about that right hand before fighting that undefeated wilder. And it just happened fury is the one man who doesn’t.. most would be intimidated too, during the pre fight build up..

Fury made the same approach the first time around, box from the outside... most would’ve, most have and gotten KTFO.

[MDPopescu]

Sorry mate didn't mean to leave out the emergency services, I've always thought of us all as within the same bracket.
I've seen firefighters sprinting and climbing ladders with more than 40lbs of hose just in one training drill among many in a day. Paramedics have to move an entire person be they 80 lbs or 300 lbs if they are incapable of moving themselves. I've had to carry twice the weight of Wilders Wilders suit in a Bergen, armour and weapon for miles of rough terrain before building camp and cooking supper at the end of it. Pretty much any training drill of the military or emergency services all make Wilders excuse laughable really.

... don't bother... You only remembered me... back then, when I served, firefighters were militarized in my country (some sort of "special forces")...

[MDPopescu]

i completely agree with you and referenced the 'yes men' surrounding him, namely deas.

May have even been a little harsh in terms of that analogy but like you say he debuted around 12 years ago.

I remember a good 10 years ago when fury fought mcdermott and was shocking, throwing the same old combo and gassed after 6. and who can forget when he uppercut himself in a video that went viral?

to be fair he still claims that's the hardest he's been hit haha but look at him now. He's got a fantastic engine, can effortlessly switch hit and has the movement, agility and speed of a much smaller man.

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I completely agree with you and referenced the 'yes men' surrounding him, namely Deas.

May have even been a little harsh in terms of that analogy but like you say he debuted around 12 years ago.

I remember a good 10 years ago when Fury fought McDermott and was shocking, throwing the same old combo and gassed after 6. And who can forget when he uppercut himself in a video that went viral?

To be fair he still claims that's the hardest he's been hit haha but look at him now. He's got a fantastic engine, can effortlessly switch hit and has the movement, agility and speed of a much smaller man.

Yup, and that's whats helped to turn him into great fighter. He's always been willing to move around and learn different skills from different trainers and put himself into new training environments.