Should this have been counted as a knockdown?

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  • Vinnykin
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    #51
    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
    Yeah it’s weird, you would think his corner would tell Bayless how Fury’s literally putting Wilder in a chokehold and then putting his entire body on his neck or even instruct Wilder to low blow Fury everytime he tries to wrestle him!

    I’ve seen last fights where opponents tried to wrestle Wilder or get dirty and he makes them pay, was very weird to see how passive he was!

    Sadly no ones talking how Fury’s dirty boxing was a key part in his win and also his trainer Sugarhill!
    That is quite literally a part of boxing and you need to know how to avoid ending up in that position. When Fury throws a left hand jab and Wilder ducks under the punch he puts himself under Fury's arm, and gives Fury the opportunity to tie him up.

    The clinching was not excessive and Fury also boxed well and fairly most of the time.

    During the first fight Fury did not use his size or physicality at all...... he barely went inside and gave Wilder all the time in the world to time him with the right. Fury needs to use these tactics as Wilder clearly can't cope with pressure and rough-house tactics.

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    • -Kev-
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      #52
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Yeah it’s weird, you would think his corner would tell Bayless how Fury’s literally putting Wilder in a chokehold and then putting his entire body on his neck or even instruct Wilder to low blow Fury everytime he tries to wrestle him!

      I’ve seen last fights where opponents tried to wrestle Wilder or get dirty and he makes them pay, was very weird to see how passive he was!

      Sadly no ones talking how Fury’s dirty boxing was a key part in his win and also his trainer Sugarhill!
      If Wilder fights dirty like Fury and wins, you better believe the fans are not going to hail him
      a hero like they’re doing for Fury.

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      • Falkano
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        #53
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        No , no punch was landed .

        There were two knockdowns however where one wasn't counted in the fifth ,unless this is a different angle ? What round is this you are showing ?
        I think it was in the 5th so might be the one you are talking about?

        To me it looks like a uppercut right landed hence why he did the whole forced back dance thing.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
          When Wilder wins this will make it all that much sweeter since pretty much nearly everyone is counting him out, calling him trash, the worst heavyweight champ in history, the most unskilled boxer in history and even trying to throw more salt in the wound by claiming ghost knockdowns as Fury clearly didn’t even hit Wilder who’s legs were gone and clearly fell backward on his own!

          Keep it coming so all the names I have listed will be saved and when the fight happens and afterwards we will see who’s here to give full credit and who is just a plain hater!
          Put me down. I said from the jump Wilder has no boxing skill, just a right hand. Even worse, he regressed badly from the first fight. He gets beat just as bad the third time. Hes been figured out. He cannot fight going backwards.

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            #55
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            Depends. One of those 50/50 calls. He stumbled into the ropes, but there is an argument if they held him up or not. Saw a similar thing happen tonight and they were allowed to continue.
            This is exactly what I was coming to say. It's all in the interpretation of "held up" by the ropes. Does bouncing off constitute being held by? I say no. If the rule read "prevented from falling" I would interpret it differently. I was too lazy to look up the NV statute, but 18VAC120-40-340 reads as follows:

            It shall be ruled a knockdown when, as a result of a legal blow or series of legal blows, a boxer touches the floor with any part of the body other than his feet, or is being held up by the ropes, or is hanging on, through, or over the ropes without the ability to protect himself and cannot fall to the floor
            Last edited by GGG Gloveking; 03-02-2020, 11:57 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              No , no punch was landed .

              There were two knockdowns however where one wasn't counted in the fifth ,unless this is a different angle ? What round is this you are showing ?
              I think this might be the uppercut just from a different angle...so maybe the ref didn't see it, and thought their legs tangled?

              Regardless, I stand by my original statement.

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              • El_Mero
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                #57
                Of course it was a kd. Til this day, had it not been for the ropes, he would have been felled.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Falkano
                  I think it was in the 5th so might be the one you are talking about?

                  To me it looks like a uppercut right landed hence why he did the whole forced back dance thing.
                  The ropes held Wilder up after the first knock down in the 5th ,they are supposed to count that . I thought the feet got tangled in the second round .

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