Should this have been counted as a knockdown?

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  • -Kev-
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    #41
    Originally posted by Luilun
    Wilder has lost 17 of 19 rounds to Fury how is he going to beat Fury in 3rd Fight ? Fury and every Heavyweight now knows Wilder can’t fight on the back foot . You remember back in the Olympics that small dude fought Wilder up close back him up to win the bout
    All that fight showed was that Wilder can’t wrestle away a guy who has a 43lb weight advantage on him. If any other current HW tries to grapple with Wilder like Fury’s big ass did, they’d likely suffer a KO.

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    • -Kev-
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      #42
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Like I said there are a lot of things in play here that I can’t go into full details that will make the difference!

      I’ve seeninterviews of Jay Deas talking about boxing and he actually has a smart boxing mind!

      I think they didn’t anticipate Fury doing some dirty boxing and using his size to the fullest advantage!

      Now they know and adjustments will be made and can be made!

      There were lots of opportunities for Wilder to land some good shots but was too focused on the right hand!

      Fury vs Wilder 3 will separate the fanboys and the real boxing fans!
      Wilder should come in the 3rd fight, if Fury wrestles again, and throw low blows, headbutts, elbows to the face, thumb his eye. After watching the rematch, Wilder has to be pissed as hell for not doing anything back in the form of dirty tactics after seeing Fury headlocking him, grappling, leaning his body on him, etc, to tire him out. Wilder needs to grow a pair and use some dirty tactics of his own.

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      • hugh grant
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        #43
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Wilder should come in the 3rd fight, if Fury wrestles again, and throw low blows, headbutts, elbows to the face, thumb his eye. After watching the rematch, Wilder has to be pissed as hell for not doing anything back in the form of dirty tactics after seeing Fury headlocking him, grappling, leaning his body on him, etc, to tire him out. Wilder needs to grow a pair and use some dirty tactics of his own.
        Your asking a lot of a former nfl player. Fury ancestors have passed knowledge down to fury.
        Fury has too much pedigree for wilder

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        • Articulateboxin
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          #44
          Originally posted by daggum
          that was just wilder thinking about how heavy his costume was.
          If anyone was ever considering robbing Wilder's house, just wait till he's carried some shopping in from the car and you have yourself a former HW champ who's unable to defend himself

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          • Blond Beast
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            #45
            Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
            Not defending anyone just stating the obvious that so many people are writing off a former world champ for over half a decade!

            The excuse is separate from this and has nothing to do with what I said!

            Many champions throughout history has made excuses for their losses or performances, I’ve heard excuses even worst than the costume excuse Wilder pulled!

            People are overreacting because they don’t like Wilder for whatever reason and that’s fine but when he wins, I will be here to see the same people blasting him either give him full credit or make up excuses and not give him credit!

            I will separate real boxing fans from the haters and fanboys!
            Wilder making excuses while saying “no excuses” in the same sentence is not uncommon. Excuses seem to actually work often in boxing. It helps drive a rematch or next promotion. Saying u were in ur best shape and had the best camp sells the fight and then saying how u weren’t helps sell the next one. Still nobody is going to say Fury won because he was carried to the ring either. Hearns lost to a leg massage remember? Nobody apologizing to the fans or saying we got ripped off or will get a discount on the rematch. Sorry for screwing up, only got paid millions. We just suck it up and it sells air time and content, it’s boxing, if these things weren’t profitable to say it wouldn’t happen. Prize fighting after all.

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            • -Kev-
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              #46
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Your asking a lot of a former nfl player. Fury ancestors have passed knowledge down to fury.
              Fury has too much pedigree for wilder
              Wilder was never in the NFL. He played HS football.

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              • Tutsa
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                #47
                Instead of this bs excuses why DW lost was his team came up with the worst game plan that took away his athleticism. Get top heavy , fight him toe to toe Which made fury job ten times easier when your taller and weight 40 pounds more Jay D worst trainer .

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                • Squ□redCircle34
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Wilder should come in the 3rd fight, if Fury wrestles again, and throw low blows, headbutts, elbows to the face, thumb his eye. After watching the rematch, Wilder has to be pissed as hell for not doing anything back in the form of dirty tactics after seeing Fury headlocking him, grappling, leaning his body on him, etc, to tire him out. Wilder needs to grow a pair and use some dirty tactics of his own.
                  Yeah it’s weird, you would think his corner would tell Bayless how Fury’s literally putting Wilder in a chokehold and then putting his entire body on his neck or even instruct Wilder to low blow Fury everytime he tries to wrestle him!

                  I’ve seen last fights where opponents tried to wrestle Wilder or get dirty and he makes them pay, was very weird to see how passive he was!

                  Sadly no ones talking how Fury’s dirty boxing was a key part in his win and also his trainer Sugarhill!

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                  • Squ□redCircle34
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Blond Beast
                    Wilder making excuses while saying “no excuses” in the same sentence is not uncommon. Excuses seem to actually work often in boxing. It helps drive a rematch or next promotion. Saying u were in ur best shape and had the best camp sells the fight and then saying how u weren’t helps sell the next one. Still nobody is going to say Fury won because he was carried to the ring either. Hearns lost to a leg massage remember? Nobody apologizing to the fans or saying we got ripped off or will get a discount on the rematch. Sorry for screwing up, only got paid millions. We just suck it up and it sells air time and content, it’s boxing, if these things weren’t profitable to say it wouldn’t happen. Prize fighting after all.
                    I totally concur, it’s all about the money which is why I picked Fury in the rematch and now I’m going with Wilder!

                    I can’t go into details yet but this is about money and not about glory!

                    Put it this way, both guys will profit off each other “equally”, WIN, LOSE, or DRAW...I’ll leave that clue for you!

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                    • Vinnykin
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Articulateboxin
                      If anyone was ever considering robbing Wilder's house, just wait till he's carried some shopping in from the car and you have yourself a former HW champ who's unable to defend himself
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