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  • #51
    Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
    So basically, to have an older generation indoctrinating hatred into the younger generation
    It’s not your people’s generation is it? You won’t ever understand and to be fair I won’t either because I’m not black but I can only imagine... what’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong bro... slavery was wrong, the blacks haven’t fully healed, and the whites don’t help

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    • #52
      Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
      I grew up in the bay area in California and my parents, me my sisters moved back to the UK when I was 16. I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that the UK is much more racist than California, so you have to first not generalise because America is a big country and in many states they are much more progressive than the UK and the rest of Europe. B yes there are states where racism is still rife and it's a big problem...bigger than Eastern Europe? Debatable.

      Your post is extremely ignorant for the most part, just because Wilder tried to play up the black-white angle doesnt mean anything. Wilder comes from one of 'those' states where there is quite a lot of racism and I'm imagining lots of young black kids still get that in school etc that leaves mental scars even as adults. Does that make him right? No. Do I understand his sensitivity? Yes.

      But there are BIG parts of the US where racism is not an issue, there is more social integration, more mixed race marriages, and it's generally a non-factor. The UK and media from other countries try to focus on the southern states and extreme racism sometimes to make themselves feel better and say "hey we are better" when the reality is, we are much less evolved as a country when it comes to racism. We are only really scratching the surface and its starting to become an open conversation.

      So yes overall I agree, posters here and the boxing community should look past these factors...but dont get on your high horse and generalise an entire country based on news reports, and whatever limited experience you have.

      Lastly I think racism is wrong, but supporting a fighter from a similar ethnic background or country is not wrong. So you should be careful and be able to distinguish this before you call someone racist. I support British boxers, and sportsman as a proud Brit, but i dont feel that should be held against me, and that doesnt stop me from liking other fighters either. Miguel Cotto is one of my All time fav fighters for example, and I'm a big Andre Ward fan because he where I grew up is about 20 mins from where he grew up.
      Please name a place in the US where racism is not an issue.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
        Please name a place in the US where racism is not an issue.
        It’s an issue because of the whites! And they don’t like to hear that sh.it but it’s the truth!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
          So you hear a black guy calling guys ******s and s..cs.

          But how many of those black guys have hopped in pick up trucks and lynched and hung white folks just going about their business?

          How many of those black guys sprayed white folks with waterhoses just for peaceful protesting?

          I'll await your answer, Billy........
          Actually black people kill white people way more often than the other way around in this country. You're out here crying about dogs and hoses from 50 years ago meanwhile black people are the biggest perpetrators of interracial violence out of any race by far. Stop watching CNN you are brainwashed.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
            That’s because they are tired of being oppressed and being victims of racial injustice... so they get upset and make wrong choices... how would you like to be a slave? Or have your parents and grandparents tell you stories of the sh.it they had to go theough all because of this specific group of people, and now you have to live in society in the middle of all those same people and one of them looks at you dirty because of your skin color? Y’all whites were phucked up! Many still are..
            Sure. One of the African American youtuber’s I occasionally listen too gave himself a similar excuse for being racist. He’s racist often but I just overlook it for the boxing info, but what he was recently after going on another racist rant was that he was allowed to, and he’ll be allowed to for at least 400 years or how many years blacks were ****** in America.

            I get the idea, but an eye for an eye doesn’t work. You gotta let it go eventually. If you’re gonna be only pro black and go on racist rants, you’re just urging others to treat you the same. Let it go. Or at least don’t make it so obvious, it’s a bad look.
            Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-28-2020, 04:31 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by YoungManRumble View Post
              HitmanTommy on his soapbox again like he just finished his history lesson for black history month in middle school...

              Acting like you're exposing the secret underbelly of racism in the US even though this stuff is sadly common knowledge to everyone.
              Thats actually MCCs alt

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                It’s not your people’s generation is it? You won’t ever understand and to be fair I won’t either because I’m not black but I can only imagine... what’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong bro... slavery was wrong, the blacks haven’t fully healed, and the whites don’t help
                Very true, right is right. Slavery was wrong, but that was along time ago, and we need to move past it at some point. White people perpetuating racism is wrong, just like black stoking the fires of history is too. You know, realistically, all we can do, is to treat people like people and hope other people do too.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                  There's a very good reason that Black Americans are profiled in the USA. With only making up only 13% of the population, they are responsible for over half of the overall crime and about 90% of the violent crimes. That's where the term 13/90 comes from. More white criminals are shot by police than black when they commit approx. the same amount of overall crimes. You don't see white people acting like there's a problem based on the facts because one should be responsible for their actions. If you run, attack, resist and threaten law enforcement you are greatly increasing your chances of being injured by law enforcement. Remember, they are also people who have to make it home to their families at the end of the day as well. Just like anyone else, if you present them with an ultimatum of their life or yours, almost anyone will choose their own life every time.
                  and if you walk away and get shot in the back thats ok? if you reach for your license and get killed thats ok? we have seen the videos. the police dont have to be responsible for their actions as most of the time they are never charged and even if charged are not convicted. the people getting killed aren't people with families?

                  Compared to their numbers in the overall population, an unarmed black man is about four times more likely to be killed by police than an unarmed white man." these are unarmed people and philando castillo was considered "armed" when they murdered him since he had a gun on him but wast even holding it so the numbers dont really tell you the whole story. the police are clearly out of control but then again so is america so maybe its fitting?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Vodkaholic View Post
                    Thats actually MCCs alt
                    Now that makes a lot of sense

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                    • #60
                      Almost 350 million people in this country. If every time somebody does something or says something racist it disappoints you, get used to disappointment. There are racists in every corner of the planet and we got our share but believe me, compared to 40 years ago, things have improved.

                      Also, social media gives a lot these idiots a safe platform, making it seem worse than it is. At least that's my take.

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