Anyone else think Wilders title run was similar to ggg’s?

[NaijaD]

Lol why are guys trying to drag Golovkin down with Wilder??

They are nothing alike, Golovkin fought the best available competition, Wilder did not. That’s it.

[Lance98]

GGG is nothing like wilder. GGG is a coward who cherry picked his opponents and avoids tough fights, while wilder wants all of the smoke, and would fight anyone. You have to respect that despite his recent KO loss. He KO'ed luis ortiz twice when people avoided him, and fought fury and almost KO'ed him the first time. Wilder has more willpower and drive than GGG. GGG never beat a tough opponent. When he stepped up, he arguably lost to jacobs, derevyanchenko and truly lost to canelo the 2nd time. He never beat anyone of note clearly with no controversy. Despite losing to fury, Wilder could at least say that he has luis ortiz in his resume, a VERY tough opponent and got a draw against a lineal champ, fury. GGG can only say that he got a draw against canelo, and he never even dropped canelo unlike wilder dropping fury twice.

[GhostofDempsey]

I liked it better when all of your threads were redirected straight to the 'Dome.

[JohnCastellanos]

GGG fought all the best competition when it was available.

Like Brook who exposed him

[JakeTheBoxer]

Like Brook who exposed him

Exposed by being stopped? What are you talking about?

[BillyBoxing]

I’m not sure how many defenses they both had but they both fell short vs oponents they were supposed to steamroll

Canelo is to GGG kinda like what Fury is to Wilder.

He ended GGG's run.

The big difference is most people with a boxing brain thought GGG won the first fight and the second was a close fight.

If Canelo is the P4P king or top 3, then ggg must be better than Wilder because they fought 24 rounds even.

The Canelo fights doesn't really hurt GGG legacy in my book.

He did fine for a 35+ guy.

[JohnCastellanos]

I liked it better when all of your threads were redirected straight to the 'Dome.

Ha ha! Thanks man, I think you are the one who told me I was posting in the wrong spot! I didn’t know nuffin about no rules

[kafkod]

I’m not sure how many defenses they both had but they both fell short vs oponents they were supposed to steamroll

I think Wilder's reign was more similar to Canelo's at 160 than GGG's.

Wilder and Canelo were both given WBC title fights they didn't earn against easy opposition.

They were both protected from fighting mandos by the WBC.

They both avoided unification fights with prime champions and cherry picked over the hill opponents instead.

And they both got gift draws after clearly losing major fights.

[daggum]

Can’t blame anyone but GGG for waiting for the last minute to step it up. If you think about it ggg “the late bloomer” waited till the last minute on allot of things: Turning pro, moving to America, taking a risky fight, taking control of his career etc. Almost as if he “waited till he was ready” wouldn’t you say? So for you or anyone to say it was another fighters obligation to fight GGG just because his clock was ticking is asinine! Ha ha

no, no one would say that.

why do you think he turned pro later than some others? do you think kazakhstan is a hotbed of boxing? if he turned pro at age 18 what promoter is going to pick him up? based on what? no one would know who he is. the way amateurs like loma and ggg get picked up is from having amateur success. you can't skip that step.

even then ggg wasn't picked up by a great promoter so that should really tell you a lot. tank davis for example was a much less accomplished amateur than ggg yet he got picked up by a big time promoter while ggg didn't. same with wilder. why do you think that is? some guys are just more promotable in the american market. tank davis btw fought 1 top 10 ranked fighter his first 3 years on major american cards. same with wilder. ggg fought 7. the reason it took longer for ggg to "make it" is because he had more hoops to jump through. thats it. why you are pretending everything is equal to every boxer that turns pro is mind bobbling.


isn't it their obligation to fight him if he's mandatory? yet you keep saying ggg waited till he was ready when canelo and cotto weren't ready. martinez wasn't ready etc... he was ranked #1 for like 5 years why wouldn't the other top guys fight him? you keep trying to revise history and make it seem like ggg was waiting. he wasn't. he agreed to fight pirog in his first hbo fight. no one wanted to fight him. he tried to fight martinez, cotto, canelo, and others so what you are saying simply makes no sense. its incoherent.

[Beercules]

I think Wilder's reign was more similar to Canelo's at 160 than GGG's.

Wilder and Canelo were both given WBC title fights they didn't earn against easy opposition.

They were both protected from fighting mandos by the WBC.

They both avoided unification fights with prime champions and cherry picked over the hill opponents instead.

And they both got gift draws after clearly losing major fights.

Boom.






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