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  • #11
    Originally posted by PulpFriction View Post
    I am sure Wilder in his post fight interview mentioned something about about a possible injury of some sort in his legs during training camp. The reality is that after the second round Wilder looked gassed and didn’t have his balance. It may have been caused by a punch but something didn’t seem right. I think Fury is the superior fighter but Wilder was off.
    Yeah i agree, he looked out of gas even before the knockdown in round 3.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by M Bison View Post
      Those sort need to be trained through a long period of time to do that, you either train with weighted gear or you don't. Even a fit person who just slaps 100lbs of gear on and decides to go a jog, I mean you try it and tell me how you feel.

      The only hard pill I find to swallow is that its not like Wilder was running about with all that weight, I'm trying to be fair in this because I've never done weighted training before. I'll also put this out here that most boxers have skinny legs and Wilder most certainly does, maybe it did play a bit of an effect on him. Maybe if you grab two 20kg plates one hand each and walk for 20-30 minutes and then tell me how you feel. I reckon that could be tiresome especially for a guy that isn't really squatting regularly.


      I know tall people tend to have skinnier legs, but look at them they're like pins.
      You’ve never carried 45 pounds around before? You don’t need training for it lol. It’s the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard in my life from a professional athlete.

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      • #13
        the fact that the ring walk was slow azz hell too didnt help him! lol. that 40lbs must of felt like 400lbs making that slow azz entrance to the ring.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post
          You’ve never carried 45 pounds around before? You don’t need training for it lol. It’s the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard in my life from a professional athlete.
          If its so easy, go and take a video of you carrying two 20kg weights for 20 minutes walking about. I just explained that most boxers don't really bulk up on their legs because its viewed as unnecessary. Come to think of it, which boxer has huge bulked up legs? Joshua, maybe but then we know he has been trying to reduce the bulk of muscle he has.

          It's his fault for making the awful decision, but the more I think about it he might have a point.

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          • #15
            Absolutely no affect.

            I could understand if he was a welter, but he is 6'7 and 230 freaking pounds.

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            • #16
              even if it did weight 45lbs, im sure that wasnt the first time he tried it on so if it was a problem, why not fix the issue beforehand.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by boxing880 View Post
                Absolutely no affect.

                I could understand if he was a welter, but he is 6'7 and 230 freaking pounds.
                With pin legs? I originally thought that he must be making just B.S. excuses but you either have strong leg development or you don't. Most pro boxers the very good ones will not be squatting heavy and I really can't think of any good reason to be squatting much for boxing. At best bodyweight squats make sense, but you don't want massive muscular legs it just harms mobility.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by M Bison View Post
                  If its so easy, go and take a video of you carrying two 20kg weights for 20 minutes walking about. I just explained that most boxers don't really bulk up on their legs because its viewed as unnecessary. Come to think of it, which boxer has huge bulked up legs? Joshua, maybe but then we know he has been trying to reduce the bulk of muscle he has.

                  It's his fault for making the awful decision, but the more I think about it he might have a point.
                  I’m not a city slicker like you are so I’ve taken part in plenty of activities that require heavy lifting. 40 pounds is nothing. If it was for him then he is the most flimsy fighter of all time. They should start rolling him to the ring in a sterilized dome like the bubble boy so that the outside world doesn’t affect his performance.

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                  • #19
                    Honestly, I thought I'd be the last guy on the planet to ever defend Wilder. I thought he was a paper champ, basically was the real life Tommy Gunn in Rocky V. I think fighters were paid off to throw fights for him and that he never belonged at the elite level. I was never convinced he had as much power as people say and I was glad when he finally faced an elite fighter in good condition because what happened was what i always thought would happen, he got schooled terribly. Now no more ducking b- level fighters and higher for 5 years so you can maintain this false pretense that you're an elite fighter.

                    However, that being said, if his costume weighed 45 pounds, then that's going to hugely affectly his stamina for the fight. It's disingenuous when people say "oh but a girl could lift that much and he's 230 pounds". That's a silly argument. 45 pounds is nothing to pick up and put down once, as in one bicep rep. It's a whole other thing to put it on like a weighted vest for 15 - 20 mins and walk 100ft - 200ft during that time and then start a 12 round fight. In each example I've seen so far of how anyone can lift 45 pounds, no ones ever given an example of some doing that right before a 12 round fight and demonstrated it had little to no effect on stamina. There's no one on the planet whom that would not take at least a few rounds out of. And in Wilder's case, that's literally a 5th of his body weight, of course that would make a huge difference in performance.

                    Now do i think Wilder would have won without the costume or that the costume was the sole reason for the loss, of course not. I think Fury would have beaten him almost just as badly even if he had full stamina because Wilder is a horrible boxer who cannot hang at the elite level. Even Fury's tune up oppoents were better boxers. But to sit here and pretend that the feat of wearing the equivalent of a weighted vest which is spreading a 5th of your bodyweight across your body, especially your legs and traps, and walking 100 - 200 ft in the span 15 - 20 mins is not going to have a huge effect on performance is silly and ignores basic biology and physics. It was a ****** thing to do yes and an egregious oversight for such a fight and maybe he shouldn't have said it publicly but that still does not negate the fact that it would have affected his performance.

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                    • #20
                      45 lbs is an empty barbell. Please, make it stop.

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